A thread for midwives to mingle.

A thread for midwives to mingle.

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@fmf said
Here's a possible compromise. divegeester undertakes not to read your posts and you undertake not to say anything in them that he wouldn't like if he did. Everybody happy.
It’s like walking a tightrope.

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@drewnogal said
It’s like walking a tightrope.
I continually find it interesting that a poster can call someone “a bitch” (page 1) … and there’s not a peep, zip, silence. Whereas I politely challenge what Torunn has said, an it’s a big issue for a few people.

Sorry, but I’m not interested in partisan persuasions, (or walking tightropes) especially when it comes to a good discussion topic like the one you have raised.

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@drewnogal said
It’s like walking a tightrope.
What do the people who have pointedly NOT been reprimanded by Torunn - PettyTalk, Suzianne, A Unique Nickname - have in common?

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@drewnogal said
You’re a relative newcomer. You’ll learn how to navigate the bun (sorry) fights in time like the rest of us did.
What you are saying, basically, is that I'm still covered with down feathers, and cannot fly, yet? Even if I know how, in theory?

I was not using your avatar for the birds flocking together, it was just a coincidence. It's for the kid's fairy tales we tell those babies when they start to walk, and talk, and they ask where babies come from, and how they got here. Why! my dear, they come from heaven, upon request, and sent by special delivery, via Amazon, today. But back then, when some of us were kids, a long time ago, Storks were our modern-day "mailmen." Can't women deliver mail? Just another story of female and male.

Can't men deliver babies?

Why mankind and not womankind? In English, one can also play around with the tern, midwife, and ask, why not midhusband?

It's been a men's world from the beginning. God is male, and the fist human he made was male. So the story goes, once upon a time. The woman came afterwards, from a rib, a man's rib. God has been ribbing women, and men from the beginning. But that's a long story, one that hardly anyone would believe. If I ever told it everyone would think I was just ribbing, where ribbing = good-natured teasing.

But you are right, I'm just learning to fly. Flying without a navigator to find my way home. I'm just an earth-bound misfit, high. Come to mingle with the elite, the high flyers. Those who deliver babies from their fairy tale nonsense. Where deliver = to free......naturally.

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@divegeester said
You said it was “traditional” for women to be midwives rather than men, and you then went on to say that “one could argue that women are more suited” (to being midwives), following up with the lack of experience of childbirth also impacting.
That doesn’t sound a very progressive mindset to me.

Here’s your post, so people don’t mistake me as misrepresenting what you w ...[text shortened]... ell-paid profession but if men choose that education, it might improve things for women as well.[/i]
You said to her: "Here’s your post, so people don’t mistake me as misrepresenting what you wrote."

You dork, first you must understand what others are truly saying, before you could actually misrepresent them, intentionally, or unintentionally.

Are we going to allow someone to pilot a plane with passengers, where the pilot has never flown before, never had any lessons, and on top, scared of heights?

That may not sound very progressive to you, either.

Go fly a kite, will you?

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@fmf said
What do the people who have pointedly NOT been reprimanded by Torunn - PettyTalk, Suzianne, A Unique Nickname - have in common?
Please tell us, O most superior being, it's another of your winded whooshes, again. We are desperately praying for rain, but we see no clouds. Make it rain. Rain knowledge, rain on us common folks.

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@pettytalk said
You dork,
Go fly a kite, will you?
🙂

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@pettytalk said
Please tell us, O most superior being, it's another of your winded whooshes, again. We are desperately praying for rain, but we see no clouds. Make it rain. Rain knowledge, rain on us common folks.
Oh dear.

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@divegeester said
I continually find it interesting that a poster can call someone “a bitch” (page 1) … and there’s not a peep, zip, silence. Whereas I politely challenge what Torunn has said, an it’s a big issue for a few people.

Sorry, but I’m not interested in partisan persuasions, (or walking tightropes) especially when it comes to a good discussion topic like the one you have raised.
You’re right on your ‘bitch’ point. It was uncalled for and I could have given that more attention than your reply to Torunn though I wouldn’t say yours was a big issue for me. It was more about my regard for Toruun feeling free to express herself.

I’ve personally become complacent with the way that some people put their points across here. It’s their choice and my Tightrope analogy is more about myself and how I chose my words carefully particularly with certain posters.

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@drewnogal said
You’re right on your ‘bitch’ point. It was uncalled for and I could have given that more attention than your reply to Torunn though I wouldn’t say yours was a big issue for me. It was more about my regard for Toruun feeling free to express herself.
If you look again I don’t think you will find anything I said to Torunn expressed any intention to restrict her feeling free to express herself.

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@divegeester said
If you look again I don’t think you will find anything I said to Torunn expressed any intention to restrict her feeling free to express herself.
It didn’t.

It's more about your degree of tenacity upon certain points that I’m personally aware of. And then again I could have wrongly interpreted that Torunn was expressing a sensitivity to that.

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@drewnogal said
It didn’t.

It's more about your degree of tenacity upon certain points that I’m personally aware of. And then again I could have wrongly interpreted that Torunn was expressing a sensitivity to that.
It isn't a big thing really but it seems I am a bit sensitive about being reminded of what I have said. I think that what I say is good English and I think I express what I feel. Being reminded that it isn't tends to make me tired. I may have expressed something I didn't mean to in choice of words. But that won't stop me when I think I have a point of view. 🙂

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@drewnogal said
It's more about your degree of tenacity upon certain points that I’m personally aware of.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with tenacity in debating the opinions expressed by someone, especially with a controversial topic like this one.

Surely the onus is on each of us to decide wether or not to get involved rather than to complain about replies and contradictory opinions to ones self?

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@torunn said
It isn't a big thing really but it seems I am a bit sensitive about being reminded of what I have said. I think that what I say is good English and I think I express what I feel. Being reminded that it isn't tends to make me tired. I may have expressed something I didn't mean to in choice of words. But that won't stop me when I think I have a point of view. 🙂
If what you are suggesting is that you should be free to post your opinions without potential redress from other posters, then perhaps you are being a little unrealistic.

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