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@divegeester saidOkay, the thread is officially finished.
Why couldn’t men do it?
Why shouldn’t men be taken seriously in the profession?
Why is a woman “best qualified” over a man?
I suppose men can’t be gynaecologists either?
Sexist, misandrist.
Explains a lot.
The A- holes had to come larf it up.
Too bad.
@drewnogal saidBoth my children were born in hospital. The first by cesarean [in Japan] and the second [here in Indonesia] conventionally. The doctors in Japan were male. The doctor here in Indonesia was also a male. There were female nurses in attendance on both occasions. In both countries, women are very strongly advised to give birth in hospitals ~ or, in the case of Indonesia ~ in a maternity hospital [rumah sakit bersalin] ~ which I don't think they had in Japan. Do they have them in the U.K.?
There must be a few on RHP?
They are known to keep a score of their deliveries.
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@fmf saidI looked it up, there are a few though I wonder if some are private? It sounds a good idea. The idea of a home birth terrified me as I was 2 months under 40 with my first and 41 with my second 😮. As for male midwives? I’ve not experienced them but males are a highly regarded part of teams in any field of nursing and experiencing a pregnancy is not a requirement to becoming a midwife. Women would have the right to request a female midwife if they had that need.
Both my children were born in hospital. The first by cesarean [in Japan] and the second [here in Indonesia] conventionally. The doctors in Japan were male. The doctor here in Indonesia was also a male. There were female nurses in attendance on both occasions. In both countries, women are very strongly advised to give birth in hospitals ~ or, in the case of Indonesia ~ in a matern ...[text shortened]... rumah sakit bersalin] ~ which I don't think they had in Japan. Do they have them in the U.K.?
As for male gynaecologists? I’ve yet to meet a female one but I’d say that a nice suit and beautifully manicured hands go a long way 🙂
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@drewnogal saidI believe midwives are traditionally women and so were nurses and nursing assistants earlier. That is changing, or has changed and we will most likely meet more male midwives too. One could argue that women are more suited but all midwives haven't personal experiences from giving birth for different reasons, young age for instance. It's not a well-paid profession but if men choose that education, it might improve things for women as well.
I looked it up, there are a few though I wonder if some are private? It sounds a good idea. The idea of a home birth terrified me as I was 2 months under 40 with my first and 41 with my second 😮. As for male midwives? I’ve not experienced them but males are a highly regarded part of teams in any field of nursing and experiencing a pregnancy is not a requirement to becoming ...[text shortened]... et to meet a female one but I’d say that a nice suit and beautifully manicured hands go a long way 🙂
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@kewpie saidI wouldn't have any problem with a male midwife but I would prefer a female gynecologist for emotional reasons.
Australia has 500-odd male midwives. Plenty of male nurses too. Only people with archaic religious customs would have a problem with that.
Half our current trade apprentices are female. Nobody objects when the female plumber arrives to fix the leaks.
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@torunn saidA good point but I must be the only person who thinks that registered nurses are reasonably well paid. (https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nursing-pay-guide/) . In my experience, up until 8 years ago, they’d never had a problem with getting on the property ladder on their single income. Admittedly, now that all registered nurses must be degree trained, their incomes may not match those of other post graduates but it was nurses who felt they needed the degree level of training and now want to be placed in the same pay scale as doctors? There are loads of opportunities for nurses to do that if they want to work really hard, do additional training and seek promotion but if they chose to continue at the Band 5 registered nurse rate they wont.
I believe midwives are traditionally women and so were nurses and nursing assistants earlier. That is changing, or has changed and we will most likely meet more male midwives too. One could argue that women are more suited but all midwives haven't personal experiences from giving birth for different reasons, young age for instance. It's not a well-paid profession but if men choose that education, it might improve things for women as well.
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@torunn saidWomen “traditionally” have been paid less than men. Is the “traditional” card the one you really want to play?
I believe midwives are traditionally women and so were nurses and nursing assistants earlier.