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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWrong again Mr Sock: -
I am going to controversial here and state that its not art, beautiful and intriguing as it is, its a skill. Now before i get the obligatory hate mail I would like you to think about the difference between an art form and a skill, if there is one.
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noun
noun: art; plural noun: arts; plural noun: the arts
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the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
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Originally posted by Sicilian SausageSo there is no difference between an art and a skill which means that bricklaying is also an art form? or plastering, or fitting a kitchen or a bathroom suit.
Wrong again Mr Sock: -
art1
noun
noun: art; plural noun: arts; plural noun: the arts
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the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
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Originally posted by Sicilian Sausageno I have asked you a question which as yet you have sadly FAILED to even address? So bricklaying produces nothing primarily of beauty? Is that really what you are saying? or that a nail salon is an artist studio because it produces something of beauty, in this case, beautiful nails? sooo beauticians are also artists?
...to be appreciated [b]primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
Now you are just being intentionally ignorant just to prove a point. Not like you (ahem cough)[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's all subjective and there are some grey area here but any idiot including yourself can see that the the video fits into the above definition.
no I have asked you a question which as yet you have sadly FAILED to even address? So bricklaying produces nothing primarily of beauty? Is that really what you are saying? or that a nail salon is an artist studio because it produces something of beauty, in this case, beautiful nails? sooo beauticians are also artists?
You can argue about brick laying all day but that wasn't the initial statement you made now was it mr Sock?
EDIT: Bricklaying works primary function is not to be appreciated primarily for its beauty or emotional power. It is intended for making bildings and civil engineering. However, many peopl can gleen appreciation from this skill and in some cases it could be classed as an art.
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Originally posted by Sicilian Sausagesigh, personal insults, the last bastion of the truly desperate.
It's all subjective and there are some grey area here but any idiot including yourself can see that the the video fits into the above definition.
You can argue about brick laying all day but that wasn't the initial statement you made now was it mr Sock?
No the original video demonstrates a skill, but its not art . Nor do I think you can conveniently hide behind subjectivity either, its simply the same as making a wedding cake and icing it, its skillful but its not an art form and seeing that you are bereft of knowing what the difference is, despite your pretensions of erudition, I shall tell you. An art form is considered to be experimental, or contain experimental elements as opposed to a skill which relies upon precision and thus cooking is a skill, but its not an art form, because you are following a recipe, the same as sign writing is a skill but its not an artform etc etc etc.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAh says the man who constanty throws stones over the wall. I repeat, the video fits perfectly the above definition of art. Your last statement does nothing to argue against this point. I'm not sure where you get you additional criteria from that art has to be experimental, but guess what? The 'skill' in the video looks pretty experimental to me. A lot more so than water colours, clay sculpture or ol paint.
sigh, personal insults, the last bastion of the truly desperate.
No the original video demonstrates a skill, but its not art . Nor do I think you can conveniently hide behind subjectivity either, its simply the same as making a wedding cake and icing it, its skillful but its not an art form and seeing that you are bereft of knowing what the dif ...[text shortened]... thus cooking is a skill, but its not an artform, because you are following a recipe etc etc etc.
I'm not going to spend another joule of energy arguing the point as you are sooooo obviously wrong. You just can't admit to being wrong. I think you must suffer some kind of personality disorder to be quite honest.