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Originally posted by darvlayPerhaps it was a metaphor. Open your eyes and what do you see? You see a man who claims to be a Christian invading other countries to "free" them, while he is solely responsible for torturing and murdering hundreds of thousands of them. Is this freedom?
I'm no fan of Bush but I think Chavez's rhetoric is a little ridiculous, I have to agree. Devil? Sulphur? Give me a break. It gives me the opinion that he's just another politician who rides the Anti-American sentiment for his own personal gain.
The Bush administration has kept many secrets from the American people and the world; that he has set up secret torture camps in other countries to whisk away any person his administration so chooses.
Yes, I would agree that Bush is the devil... and I'll bet he has BO too!
Originally posted by slimjimThis guy says that there are 200 dead in Caracas this week, implying that they are dead at the hands of Chavez.
What he is saying that since he lives there he might have a better idea of whats going on than somebody who reads the news from the papers. I happen to agree with him.
I know you agree with anything that your government tells you and anything that random personalities on an internet forum tell you which fits in with your twisted view of the world, but don't you think a very anti-Chavez media would have picked up on him killing 200 people in a week?
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Originally posted by rwingettDon't try to turn a metaphor into a fact. It makes you look as foolish as Mr. Chavez. Do you really believe that he is Lucifer? I don't think that you or anyone else that is piling on in this thread really believes that.
Bush IS the devil. We need more people like Mr. Chavez who are willing to call a spade a spade.
Venezuela has made a formal complaint to the US authorities and the United Nations after its foreign minister was detained at a New York airport.
The US state department has apologised to Nicolas Maduro who was detained for 90 minutes at New York's JFK airport as he travelled home.
Any comments ? Where we are going ?
Venezuela has made a formal complaint to the US authorities and the United Nations after its foreign minister was detained at a New York airport.
The US state department has apologised to Nicolas Maduro who was detained for 90 minutes at New York's JFK airport as he travelled home.
Any comments ? Where we are going ?
Originally posted by slimjim38% of Americans believe george bush is doing a good job of running their country.
What he is saying that since he lives there he might have a better idea of whats going on than somebody who reads the news from the papers. I happen to agree with him.
Just because you live in a country doesn't mean you know what's going on.
Originally posted by uzlessThen 62% believe otherwise. Nothing proved.
38% of Americans believe george bush is doing a good job of running their country.
Just because you live in a country doesn't mean you know what's going on.
For some strange reason I'm more inclined to believe an
actual citizen of Venezuela over your distant opinions.
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For some strange reason I'm more inclined to believe anThey aren't my "opinions". They are facts. And I've given you the "opinions" of the people that were ACTUALLY involved in dealings with cuba/IMF/US government.
actual citizen of Venezuela over your distant opinions.[/b]
Perhaps in your mind facts are just opinions if you don't agree with them.
Hey, I live in Canada. Our government hates UK immigrants and welfare recipients. Do you believe that is true just because I live here? I suppose it doesn't matter what you believe because you don't live here so you couldn't possibly know what's going on so what difference does it make what you believe?
Hmm, following that logic, I suppose we should just let the Venezuelans debate amongst themselves whether Chavez is crazy or not since none of us live there so what could we possibly have to offer to the debate.
Originally posted by PalynkaWhat you mean is that the IMF wouldn't grant loans to countries that:
Not really, you were connecting IMF supporters to brutal repression, which includes murder of 3,000 people. I find that a tad over the top.
There are many other countries where that didn't happen (like my own, for example) because the IMF loans didn't meet governments that were extremely corrupt or with dictatorial presidents hiding behind a facade of democracy (ring a bell?).
1) would look very bad in the public eye given their terrible human rights record, and/or
2) refused to agree to transfer most of the loan money to US engineering corporations to do the work, instead of using local companies to do the work, thus keeping the loan money within the country rather than simply transferring IMF money to a US corporation like Bechtel/Haliburton