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Originally posted by JohnLennonForeverExactly my point. Hillary cannot win (her baggage will prevent it, and her baggage needs to prevent it), but losers have a history of winning in American electoral politics.
LOL But Gore couldn't win and somebody has to win and Bush won, whether you agree with it!
She cannot win, and she must not win; nevertheless, she might.
Originally posted by AndrewKnottGood point, but if the woman's a southerner, she might stand a chance.
Guess I was curious where supporting the right for gays to marry is consider "hyper-republicanism"
But oh well.
And no, Obama won't win in the South. This is true. I just doubt the South would vote for a woman either.
Originally posted by Wulebgrdon't be so sure. Hillary will get the nomination and then the women vote, the black vote, the hispanic vote( which gets much bigger in 2008) and naturally pull from whomever is in the middle not loving the republican nominee. By the way, the rep nominee hopefuls are not lining up to be candidates who have the ability to pull from the right. To beat Hillary the country needs a candidate who we can all believe in ... all parties. Mitt Romney certainly isn't going to do it . Guiliani will be on his third wife by then and most likely will come off as nothing more than a great man who did what he should have done during 911 and that's it. I don't see the presidential office in his future.
Exactly my point. Hillary cannot win (her baggage will prevent it, and her baggage needs to prevent it), but losers have a history of winning in American electoral politics.
She cannot win, and she must not win; nevertheless, she might.
Originally posted by biggest bThe baggage may actually work in her favor. Kind of like 8-Mile. Eminem spouted off all the ammo his opponent might have against him, leaving him with nothing. I'm guessing that the vast majority of Hillary's dirt is already public. I don't think the general public is particularly interested in Whitewater, Travelgate...etc. anymore.
don't be so sure. Hillary will get the nomination and then the women vote, the black vote, the hispanic vote( which gets much bigger in 2008) and naturally pull from whomever is in the middle not loving the republican nominee. By the way, the rep nominee hopefuls are not lining up to be candidates who have the ability to pull from the right. To beat Hillar ...[text shortened]... hould have done during 911 and that's it. I don't see the presidential office in his future.
Originally posted by WulebgrI'm still waiting for Obama to decide to run as her VP. That would be an unstoppable ticket in some areas, while having absolutely no chance in others. All in all, I think they would win.
I'm certain that she should not win, that she cannot win, and that (therefore) she has a more than reasonable chance of winning.