Originally posted by asromacalcioI can't join anything yet. I still havent gotten around to sending a message to site owner about paying via paypal.
OK, will you join my clan?. Gluk'oza, cool Russian singer with an attitude. Terrible music but I like it, and so far, on RHP, I'm the only one.
Originally posted by David TebbNaw, they would only see the name used when the purchase was made. Technically its not real identity theft. Anither thing I was wondering about anyway is if Russ even sees the names of any of the people. I've noticed people assume that he does but, the payments don't go directly to him. I went through the process and saw its another site used to process the payments, so wonder how much info he gets from them about the payments aside from the amount of money, the type of membership and the user name. Companies don't usually share all the extra stuff unless it was a product you were buying that was being mailed to you. My tooth is feeling a little better 🙂. I'm also disappointed that huckleberryhound resigned in our game only 20 moves into it 🙁. He made some big mistakes the last couple of moves but still I like to play games out. How am I supposed to work on my end game if people keep resigning when the game comes to a point where they realize it is lost for them.
But wouldn't the primary name on the credit card be the one that shows up in Russ's records? I don't know. You obviously know a lot more about identity theft than I do!
I suppose if it came to the crunch and Russ demanded absolute proof of my identity, I could always hop on a train to London and show up on his doorstep with a few documents like my birth certificate and a pocket chess set. He'd have to pay my fare though!
Originally posted by David TebbI wasnt joking was just using it as an example but figured that the name wasn't one that someone would just use if it wasnt really them. You are good but, its not a high profile name that people would take. Like if I joined with the name Michael Lurie. Aside from being someone who beat Kasparov in a simul not much else to know and not a big name. Most people wouldnt even know that about him.
I guessed you were joking, but I wasn't sure. Bridge Player also asked the same question, as have other people in the past. I can't assume that everyone was joking.
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Originally posted by BridgePlayerThis is all rather pointless and unnecessary.
I wasnt joking was just using it as an example but figured that the name wasn't one that someone would just use if it wasnt really them. You are good but, its not a high profile name that people would take. Like if I joined with the name Michael Lurie. Aside from being someone who beat Kasparov in a simul not much else to know and not a big name. Most people wouldnt even know that about him.
Generally we make a judgement based on evidence, sometimes coloured by our belief that most people are basically honest. I, for example, believed for a while that "Jean Hebert" was indeed Jean Hebert. But while impersonating someone is against the TOS, the important thing to remember about "Jean Hebert" is that he was kicked for cheating. As was Ironman31. Whether he is or is not really an Italian FIDE arbiter is of no importance to me.
If someone came here with the username "Tony Kosten" and had a rating of 1300 or so, we'd probably just pass it off as a (bad) joke.
(Although incidentally I imagine most FIDE arbiters who are untraceable as players are probably pretty poor. If they loved the game enough to be an arbiter, and were of a high standard, you'd think they'd play OTB and have some sort of verifiable rating.)
Originally posted by asromacalcioI am the real Bobby Fisher.
I know I have jumped to at least one conclusion and you have put me right on that but I still have the confusing matter of the word of a friend, the vote of confidence of somebody who knows Ironman31 and is adamant he is for real. Of course that's neither your problem nor RHP's but while it doesn't really matter, I feel from a personal point of view the ...[text shortened]... things left to answer. But then, aren't there always?
PS Are you the 'real' David Tebb?
Well at least I might be, can you prove otherwise!
Originally posted by Dragon FireYou agree to not use the Service to:
I am the real Bobby Fisher.
Well at least I might be, can you prove otherwise!
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Impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, RHP staff, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;
Originally posted by XanthosNZhi XNZ
[b]No proves of cheating being made public.
I agree this would be nice but in actuality would just result in smarter che@ters.
No one (bootted) player is allowed to present a discharge in public,
What purpose would this serve? What evidence can a banned player present that contradicts game after game of engine play?
The mods game team ...[text shortened]... or the che@t spelling, RoboMod was triggered thanks to the density of that word in my post.
since my mother tongue is spanish, I beg you pardon if you have to decipher my post(s).
I agree with your opinions, and I'm happy to do so.
But the question is: we have to try finding solutions; not finding new problems buried into the actual system.
I have made some (hiden, implicit) proposals in my post.
I hope these could be of any help to the admins and game mods.
I humble think I have a point in there (maybe only a few).
But valid ones.
Regards
- J
Originally posted by dottewellIts not pointless and unnecessary, it wasn't for you, I was replying to David Tebb about when I said just because his name is David Tebb doesnt mean he is really David Tebb. Lets say my last name is Herbert and my parents name me Jean because they are chess players and for some reason like Jean Hebert. I could make that name and come and play here and say I am Jean Herbert because I am. I find it hard to believe that people actually believed this jean herbert person was the real deal just because he used that name and played well. So I guess if i make the name Gary Kasparov and start beating David Tebb and all the other top players, then I must really be Kasparov.
This is all rather pointless and unnecessary.
Generally we make a judgement based on evidence, sometimes coloured by our belief that most people are basically honest. I, for example, believed for a while that "Jean Hebert" was indeed Jean Hebert. But while impersonating someone is against the TOS, the important thing to remember about "Jean Hebert" is ...[text shortened]... a high standard, you'd think they'd play OTB and have some sort of verifiable rating.)
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Originally posted by BridgePlayerIt is pointless because the primary issue here is not identity theft. It is engine use. If you are using an engine, it doesn't matter who you are.
Its not pointless and unnecessary, it wasn't for you, I was replying to David Tebb about when I said just because his name is David Tebb doesnt mean he is really David Tebb. Lets say my last name is Herbert and my parents name me Jean because they are chess players and for some reason like Jean Hebert. I could make that name and come and play here and ...[text shortened]... rov and start beating David Tebb and all the other top players, then I must really be Kasparov.
It's unnecessary because David Tebb has been a friend to this site for much longer than either me or (certainly) you, and has never bragged about his OTB exploits (though he has commented on them when asked). Neither you nor I have any good reason to doubt he is who we think he is.
Of course you could share a name with a famous chess player, or adopt their name in homage. Unfortunately our "Jean Hebert" started talking about possibly playing in the Olympiad, etc. When told it was an honour to have an IM at the site, he didn't say: "Hang on! Wait! It's all a terrible mistake!" He just went on about being a humble man and hoping to play some good games.
What exactly is your point and how is it relevant to the question of IronMan's removal from the site?
Originally posted by eldragonflyThat was it. Exactly.
Or was sophisticated mathematical techniques used to discredit him?
Before you jump all over me...
i understand the notion that his moves appeared to mimic a high end chess engine or another on a handful of occasions, but is that all there is too it?
i really am in the dark on this.
But be quiet, the cheat-nazis are still-a-prowlin'...
They'll thump you with their bible if you stick your nose in too deep.
And if you don't, they'll just throw it at you. That is why they're called: the TOSSERS...
Originally posted by XanthosNZAh yes! but who am I impersonating, I did not say I was THE Bobby Fisher.
You agree to not use the Service to:
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Impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, RHP staff, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;
Originally posted by BridgePlayeri think that is a statement by our site admin ... to leave ironman at two hundred and fourty five million points, way above the rest of us, seemed less than picturesque.
Hey, question, why did ironman get taken down to a 500 rating when all the other banned players I see still have whatever rating they had? I see crackhead is still 2100 and meman is 2300, Jean Hebert is in the 1800's