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@very-rusty said
She obviously likes to stand on her own two feet, which I have respect for.

I've been through many of the same things she has and have a good idea how she feels. I just don't care and she probably doesn't either. One does get to that point after a period of time.

-VR
I thought I understood how she felt when she talked about her own and others women's sad sexual experiences, but we still didn't connect. She could have had a friend in me if she had wanted it that way.


@very-rusty said
If I were in her position with a group of people at me everyday I might do the same thing.

What would you do Torunn think about it seriously, you have a group of people at you pretty much on a daily basis, how would you handle it?

-vR
Torunn will never be in that position. And there is a damn good reason why.

Perhaps you can learn by studying Torunn. We all could.

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@very-rusty said
"... Sorry to hear about what happened to your daughter! I probably would have said they should castrated."

-VR
Thank you VR. As I said, it happened many years ago but it has marked her for life. Not that she is afraid but it changed her view on people.


@earl-of-trumps said
Torunn will never be in that position. And there is a damn good reason why.

Perhaps you can learn by studying Torunn. We all could.
Torunn doesn't argue or disagree with anyone hardly ever.

It is just not in her personality. I don't think if she even disagreed with something she would say much about it in the forum.

There are few like torunn on the site, you have a good point we could all learn something.

I'll probably not change my ways or will you!

-VR


I can see that I have good friends here. 🙂

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@very-rusty said
She obviously likes to stand on her own two feet, which I have respect for.

I've been through many of the same things she has and have a good idea how she feels. I just don't care and she probably doesn't either. One does get to that point after a period of time.

Sorry to hear about what happened to your daughter! I probably would have said they should castrated.

-VR
you have been through many of the same things she has?
bwahahaha
she is out of your league buddy
you are stupid and she is semi intelligent
never the twain shall meet


@torunn said
Thank you VR. As I said, it happened many years ago but it has marked her for life. Not that she is afraid but it changed her view on people.
I know it is something she will never forget and has to live with. I can't imagine what it would be like of course. I do know women who have been raped and they have all told me that you never get over it. Always in the back of your mind and hard to trust anyone.

-VR


@Very-Rusty You have a group behind you she has no one!

That's HER choice. People have tried to treat her nicely and ally with her. She rebukes them every time.

Why don't you try allying with her and see how far you get?

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@lemondrop said
you have been through many of the same things she has?
bwahahaha
she is out of your league buddy
your stupid and she is semi intelligent
never the twain shall meet
And of course you know how much of what you have to say I am even a bit concerned about!

I am not as stupid as to do what you tried in the clan challenges lemon. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house so to speak.

-VR


@earl-of-trumps said
@Very-Rusty You have a group behind you she has no one!

That's HER choice. People have tried to treat her nicely and ally with her. She rebukes them every time.

Why don't you try allying with her and see how far you get?
I believe and this is only my opinion of course that she has fought her own battles and has got to the point where she is fine with that and doesn't care or want anyone's help.

It appears to me that she does a pretty good job all on her own. I have already tried and she pretty much told me to mind my own business or as goad put it she sat on me.

That is ok though because I understand where she is coming from. I have fought most of my battles on here by myself and with no help from anyone.

One gets to the point where it doesn't even matter anymore.

-VR


@torunn said
I can see that I have good friends here. 🙂
As it should be, you treat people kindly and with respect!

-VR

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The most formidable debater I recall from years past is TWhitehead. Have not heard from him in a while though.


@very-rusty said
And of course you know how much of what you have to say I am even a bit concerned about!

I am not as stupid as to do what you tried in the clan challenges lemon. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house so to speak.

-VR
our pillow talk says differently
love ya

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@moonbus said
The most formidable debater I recall from years past is TWhitehead. Have not heard from him in a while though.
Ok, I didn't go into debates for years, so didn't know him at all.

At least I don't recall him.

I just checked and did have 2 games with him back in 2007.....Just didn't recall them.

-VR


@torunn said
VR, is it correct of her to call me a racist because I mentioned, in a thread about rapes, that the men who raped my daughter should be sent back to their home-countries? I didn't say which country they came from.
One cannot take Duchess’s imputation of racism to be an objective description of her interlocutor(s). It is rather her idiom of frustration.

I have several times agreed with points she made, but she calls me a racist, too. For the record, I’m white, I adopted two children from Haiti, and I am daily reminded of the fact that my children are looked upon differently than my neighbors’ children. Calling me racist gets no traction, water off a duck’s back.

As for her debating skills, tenacity shades off into sheer bloodymindedness.