We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it...
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Originally posted by Red NightYes, "... all men are created equal" but only in the sight of the law. Otherwise near total genetic, social privilige, geographic, etc., inequality.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any fo ...[text shortened]... nt becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it...
Edit: Realize where you may be going with this thread, Red, but also felt comfortable inserting an off-topic thrust comment that's accurate.
Originally posted by Red NightYou see, I love this. However I am safe in the knowledge that if I tried to excercise my rights to abolish government I would end up in jail... Why we celebrate Guy Fawkes failing to blow up the houses of parliament is a mystery to me...
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any fo ...[text shortened]... nt becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it...
Originally posted by cadwahSame reason we celebrate Christopher Columbus getting lost and not having a clue where he was.
You see, I love this. However I am safe in the knowledge that if I tried to excercise my rights to abolish government I would end up in jail... Why we celebrate Guy Fawkes failing to blow up the houses of parliament is a mystery to me...
Originally posted by cadwahI've never entirely understood Guy Fawkes Day either.
You see, I love this. However I am safe in the knowledge that if I tried to excercise my rights to abolish government I would end up in jail... Why we celebrate Guy Fawkes failing to blow up the houses of parliament is a mystery to me...
GB: Don't be so sure you know where I am headed. I'm not sure I know. I just like the words and have become re-enamored with the concept that we can pursue our happiness.
Originally posted by pawnhandlerColumbus is an interesting story. Excluding the Norse, who are obvious, but possibly including the Portugese, English, Scotish, Irish, French, and Dutch; I have long been fascinated by the list of people who may have beaten the misguided "discoverer" to these shores.
Same reason we celebrate Christopher Columbus getting lost and not having a clue where he was.
Originally posted by Red NightIf our founding fathers could see us now, they'd soil themselves.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any fo ...[text shortened]... nt becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it...
Originally posted by Red NightYou're correct. My sense was that "to alter or abolish" would come into play.
I've never entirely understood Guy Fawkes Day either.
GB: Don't be so sure you know where I am headed. I'm not sure I know. I just like the words and have become re-enamored with the concept that we can pursue our happiness.
Originally posted by Ice ColdThere is alot of truth to that, but I'm sure they would also be pleased by our progress in many areas.
If our founding fathers could see us now, they'd soil themselves.
Jefferson might be dismayed by our lack of self-suffiency, but Franklin would certainly be amazed by our technological advancements.
Originally posted by Red Nightso long as marijuana, cocaine, heroine, ... , or alcohol consumption before age 21 are involved, then yes, we can pursue happiness.
I've never entirely understood Guy Fawkes Day either.
GB: Don't be so sure you know where I am headed. I'm not sure I know. I just like the words and have become re-enamored with the concept that we can pursue our happiness.
Originally posted by Big Orange CountryThe items you mention are substitutes for happiness.
so long as marijuana, cocaine, heroine, ... , or alcohol consumption before age 21 are involved, then yes, we can pursue happiness.
In many ways so are video games and internet chat rooms.
No one ever found happiness in a bottle or on an Xbox.
