Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have never denied or doubted your claim that you are sexually attracted to submissive and subservient women nor your statement about how you travelled to the "East" to avoid women who are not submissive and subservient.
Your evaluation of course is naught but a reflection of your inability to honestly admit that the combination may be construed as attractive...
Originally posted by FMFok, my mistake, so we can agree, Eastern Women are PURE AWESOMENESS!
I have never denied or doubted your claim that you are sexually attracted to submissive and subservient women nor your statement about how you travelled to the "East" to avoid women who are not submissive and subservient.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFrom a human trafficking, race hate crime and sex tourism point of view, your suggestion that eastern women are more amenable to serving men is an excellent advert.
nope i started the thread with the intent purpose of discussing how cultural values may have a bearing on marital relationships, both eastern and western. Your evaluation of course is naught but a reflection of your inability to honestly admit that the combination may be construed as attractive, for to do so, you would need to admit, that there is a ...[text shortened]... If you want to do better, you will need to use reason, rather than opinionated personal remarks.
Just in case you were wondering why some people might be deeply offended by your light hearted comment.
In your ignorance this might be a right old laugh, for others serious business.
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From a human trafficking, race hate crime and sex tourism point of view, your suggestion that eastern women are more amenable to serving men is an excellent advert.
The primary destinations for female sex tourism are Southern Europe (mainly Italy, Turkey, Greece, Armenia, Macedonia, Croatia, Israel, Slovenia, Spain, Portugal, Azerbaijan, Kherson, Crimea); also Lebanon; the Caribbean (led by Jamaica, Barbados, the town of Camuy in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic); Southeast Asia, (Bali in Indonesia[1] and Phuket in Thailand); Dubai; and Gambia, Senegal and Kenya in Africa.[2] Lesser destinations include Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Fiji, Ecuador and Costa Rica.[3]
Indonesia, Thailand, the Dominican Republic and Cuba are exceptional in that both male and female sex tourists use these countries.
An estimated 650,000 Western women have engaged in travel sex since 1980, many of them multiple times.[4] By some estimates, 80,000 North American and European women travel to Jamaica for sex every year.[5]
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Do you think Asia and Southern Asia are unique, and exclusive in comparison to the west?
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_sex_tourism
This is a world wide phenomenon, not an Asian one.
You manipulate words to put down the East, don't you? Do you have an innate fear? Are you missing an important point, perhaps?
I have steered clear of this thread, for obvious reasons. But I will not stand by and watch you dismiss Asia as being the major culprit of sex tourism.
I haven't even started on the male tourism yet. I have no need.
Don't diss Asia, or Asian women for being subservient, or suggesting they are of no value.
Your single-pointed manipulation of words needs dissecting, and straightening out!
-m.
Originally posted by mikelomI think you might have to read the whole thread, or perhaps you quoted me incorrectly?
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The primary destinations for female sex tourism are Southern Europe (mainly Italy, Turkey, Greece, Armenia, Macedonia, Croatia, Israel, Slovenia, Spain, Portugal, Azerbaijan, Kherson, Crimea); also Lebanon; the Caribbean (led by Jamaica, Barbados, the town of Camuy in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic); Southeast Asia, (Bali in Indonesia[1] an ...[text shortened]...
Your single-pointed manipulation of words needs dissecting, and straightening out!
-m.
Everything you posted is either the complete opposite of everything I typed or slightly unrelated.
You are probably aggravated that I may be insinuating that mixed marriages are a bad thing, I am not, I am saying the original posters original statement is a bad thing.
I have tried my level best to avoid ambiguity there, I hope it is appreciated (probably not eh?)
Originally posted by Woodgieno hes simply stating your talking pants, and not just any ordinary pants either, but a double concentrated ultra, total triple bum burger of a pair! Give it up, you dont know anything about eastern manners and customs, all you have is your prejudices, lame assertions of racism, misogyny, imagined scenarios of sex trafficking, man alive, its a wonder you haven't heaped anti Semitism and Nazism on to the pile while you were at it.
I think you might have to read the whole thread, or perhaps you quoted me incorrectly?
Everything you posted is either the complete opposite of everything I typed or slightly unrelated.
You are probably aggravated that I may be insinuating that mixed marriages are a bad thing, I am not, I am saying the original posters original statement is a bad thing ...[text shortened]... I have tried my level best to avoid ambiguity there, I hope it is appreciated (probably not eh?)
I get the vision of a quiet American, you've read the novel? Alden Pyle, the American character, one whose ideology comes from books rather than life, who really thinks that they know what's best for other people, regardless of the consequences. Mike is correct, you have slandered, and used derogatory remarks, been guilty of pigeon-holing an individual based on a preconception or type, used inflammatory and imagined straw men arguments, assigning values where none existed, basing arguments on those imaginary scenarios, and generally behaved in an indecent and thoroughly scurrilous manner.
I think its good that not only would you do well to avoid ambiguity, but any subject that you have no experience of as well. If not for your own sake, for the sake of others.
Originally posted by FMFthe only thing that's a cardboard cut out in my world is a recent effigy of your avatar, it resides on my dartboard if you must know, and seeing that you produce nothing but the now obligatory personal remarks I can retire safe in the knowledge that should i return, things can only get better and you might sprout something of substance.
Or it's the "cheerleaders" of the "West".
Why do women appear to be cardboard cutouts in your world?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou offered up the subservience and submissiveness of your wife - along with intimate personal details about the physical side your relationship - as a thread topic and then denounce responses as "personal remarks"? Are you being serious?
...you produce nothing but the now obligatory personal remarks I can retire safe in the knowledge that should i return, things can only get better and you might sprout something of substance.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Eastern girls" give massages and are subservient to men; then, as a kind of taunt, you choose "cheerleaders" to typify or represent "Western girls". What do these porn-movie-plot level stereotypes actually achieve in a discussion on a public forum?
You are of course free to put forth the case for western cultural aspects, you may wish to incorporate cheerleaders to help you with your effort, for purely moral support of course.
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Originally posted by WoodgieI have followed the thread from the beginning, of course.
I think you might have to read the whole thread, or perhaps you quoted me incorrectly?
Everything you posted is either the complete opposite of everything I typed or slightly unrelated.
You are probably aggravated that I may be insinuating that mixed marriages are a bad thing, I am not, I am saying the original posters original statement is a bad thing ...[text shortened]... I have tried my level best to avoid ambiguity there, I hope it is appreciated (probably not eh?)
I have no aggravation, but your post to which I responded was slightly aggressive to the East. I think you would concur that you were being slightly dismissive of general world standards of abuse, and not only Asian.
I believe the OP posted in jest, to cause some stirr, only. It is obvious he is very proud of his wife, and feels that she has more to give to him than his previous experiences with 'western women.' I don't think that's a bad thing, either.
Posting about world centres of sexist tourism was not unrelated in anyway to your post about advertising Asia. You went on a bent, to try to oust that Asia is the centre of abuse. Bad form, my man.
I appreciate non-ambiguity when it is not open for debate. If I interpreted your attack on submissiveness being only in Asia, and I defended it, then I hope that that is also appreciated.
Robbie obviously loves his wife very much, and feels that she gives him something more than a western woman can. Maybe a magical mystical touch, that does exist in Asian women, and is absent in most western women, in my humble experience. The fact that she came from a poor family does not mean she is submissive, and his departure 'from representing Asia well' came at a point of, what I believe to be, frustration and tongue in cheek comments.
I am married to a Thai woman, as you know. She also came from the depths of poverty to create her own career as a doctor. She made her own way to Bangkok, after excelling at school. She never misdemeanoured, and worked 24/7 to pay for her MD. There aren't may Western women, in my opinion, that would do that, or would have to need to do that. So, in response to that, when such a person succeeds, as she has, and bought her own property, car etc etc (not that artifacts are number one, and most of them we use for pleasure and simplicity) then I can only honour such Eastern traits, and it does display a major depth of understanding about oneself. I, personally, don't believe those traits or developed understanding exist in 'many' (not all) Western women, nor the needed attempt to try so hard for 'oneself' and one's own improvement.
There is no ambiguity in what I have written above, and it is merely my conjecture of experience, from living in both the West and the East for some good time. 😉
I have no dislike of any woman. I simply find there is a greater sensitivity and love and care from Asian women, as opposed to the west. And if you don't recognise this last statement as a mikelom complete piss take, God help you. 😀😀
-m.
Now I have been drawn in, I shall quietly leave.