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Originally posted by sonhouse
Man made waves are powerful enough to penetrate a thousand miles of rocks and send a signal back to the surface.

Besides, even if the signals from man were not strong enough, for one thing, equating a drilling operation with sound waves is like comparing fish to meteors. But even if man could not make sound waves strong enough to be detected by some ver ...[text shortened]... trying to make his fantasy flat Earth 'theory' sound true.

You really need to get out more.
Take back everything you said.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Take back everything you said.
Yeah sure, I'll take back everything about the past 300 years of scientific advancement so you can have your little fantasy.

Right. It is clear you don't WANT to learn about geology or any other science that goes against your mythology, JUST LIKE RJ HINDS in his young Earther stance.

You are another Hinds in disguise.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You are another Hinds in disguise.
Hinds is his father-in-law

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Yeah sure, I'll take back everything about the past 300 years of scientific advancement so you can have your little fantasy.

Right. It is clear you don't WANT to learn about geology or any other science that goes against your mythology, JUST LIKE RJ HINDS in his young Earther stance.

You are another Hinds in disguise.
Fantasy?
If you want to talk about fantasy, let's talk about how the earth was "discovered" to be round.
According to the 'story,' Eratosthenes
meaning of name, literally, "really bad at math"
observed light in a well (and the lack of shadow thereof) on June 21 in Syene while at the same time a shadow was observed in a well in Alexandria, some 500+ miles south of his position.
Yup.
That sounds about right.
He was inexplicably able to determine the exact position of the by the sun in two cities on the same day at the same time... separated by nearly a month of walking.
He also knew the two spots were precisely along the same meridian.
Assuming he was "told" the information he used, he also knew exactly how tall the person who peered into wells was, in addition to knowing the size of their heads--- although he probably had a good idea how big at least one of them was: his own.
It doesn't help the story to ask how he would have been "told" that tidbit of information, since it only casts more doubt on it in the first place.
Additional problems enter when one realizes the person doing the calculating would need to know the distance to the light source, as well.

Good ol' science: you know it can be explicitly and implicitly trusted, no matter what... just ask it!

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Fantasy?
If you want to talk about fantasy, let's talk about how the earth was "discovered" to be round.
According to the 'story,' Eratosthenes[hidden]meaning of name, literally, "really bad at math"[/hidden] observed light in a well (and the lack of shadow thereof) on June 21 in Syene while at the same time a shadow was observed in a well in Alexandria, ...[text shortened]... l' science: you know it can be explicitly and implicitly trusted, no matter what... just ask it!
Jokes aside, if you are serious about proof the Earth isn't flat, just look at the following link that made the news yesterday. (Sam the dog was successfully launched from England’s Lake District region by a group of school children Tuesday, but has since been reported “lost in space” )

Scroll down the page a little and you can easily see the curvature of the Earth.


https://www.rt.com/uk/338921-missing-dog-space-astronaut/

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Jokes aside, if you are serious about proof the Earth isn't flat, just look at the following link that made the news yesterday. (Sam the dog was successfully launched from England’s Lake District region by a group of school children Tuesday, but has since been reported “lost in space” )

Scroll down the page a little and you can easily see the curvature of the Earth.


https://www.rt.com/uk/338921-missing-dog-space-astronaut/
Just as with other fish-eye cameras, you can see the entire image is rounded--- although you can also see the horizon completely straight within the same videos.

Here's one for ya...

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Just as with other fish-eye cameras, you can see the entire image is rounded--- although you can also see the horizon completely straight within the same videos.

Here's one for ya...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnE1JLryOd8
Hmm.

Two initial questions. Why is it spliced in the middle of an ants cartoon and who chose the music?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Hmm.

Two initial questions. Why is it spliced in the middle of an ants cartoon and who chose the music?
I, too, can speak gibberish.

Just read any of my posts.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I, too, can speak gibberish.

Just read any of my posts.
touché.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Fantasy?
If you want to talk about fantasy, let's talk about how the earth was "discovered" to be round.
According to the 'story,' Eratosthenes[hidden]meaning of name, literally, "really bad at math"[/hidden] observed light in a well (and the lack of shadow thereof) on June 21 in Syene while at the same time a shadow was observed in a well in Alexandria, ...[text shortened]... l' science: you know it can be explicitly and implicitly trusted, no matter what... just ask it!
So you figure now that we have atomic clocks accurate to the picosecond, you don't think the same experiment could be done today?

My guess is you would dis the result anyway.

So in your flat Earth mythology, tell me why the International space station sees dark and light every 90 minutes?


Originally posted by sonhouse
So you figure now that we have atomic clocks accurate to the picosecond, you don't think the same experiment could be done today?

My guess is you would dis the result anyway.

So in your flat Earth mythology, tell me why the International space station sees dark and light every 90 minutes?
Do some research on the ISS and come back and tell me if you still "believe."

Anything which proceeds from the mouth of NASA necessarily requires intense scrutiny with respect to veracity.
They are liars, through and through.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Look, I know you feel completely bolstered in your confidence that it just couldn't be that a large group of people could POSSIBLY want to advance a particular line of thinking by the findings of a certain Oxford research paper which unequivocally and without question determined a number in the 400,000 just for the faking of the moon walk, but...
...[text shortened]... why would NASA lie about so many things?
[b]Why would NASA lie about ANYTHING, ever?
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I don't expect you to have all the answers, at the very least though i expect you come up with a plausible narrative as to why countless people have been propagating this 'lie' that the earth is round for hundreds of years. Stop focussing on tiny specifics and look at the bigger picture.

Personally i like a good conspiracy theory, with others though i can see the 'reason' for them. JFK, 911, Princess Diana, the Moon Landings, for all of them i can understand the reasons as to why they exist. I don't believe them, but i get them. As for the flat earth conspiracy, i can't think of a reason as to why countless people have ben propagating this monumental lie for hundreds of years?!

Back to my question, how many people do you think have been involved in this conspiracy?

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Do some research on the ISS and come back and tell me if you still "believe."

Anything which proceeds from the mouth of NASA necessarily requires intense scrutiny with respect to veracity.
They are liars, through and through.
Ah, so ISS is fake now? How do explain the fact I saw it with my own two eyes, well one eye, the other through my telescope on night when it passed overhead?

Also, why would the Russians be in on the conspiracy also? You have to widen your paranoia to the entire scientific world for that to work. The Chinese, the Italians, the Brits, the Russians and Americans have all sent people to ISS. So I guess they are in on the big secret too?

It's really amusing, your cognitive dissonance refuses to let you believe in what is actually out there in the world. It is the 21st century now you know.

You can't hide behind ancient science now. Mankind has sent men to the moon, a dozen of them and I was one of the techs who worked on Apollo at Goddard.

There is a telescope in space, unless you want to dis that one two, actually a lot of telescopes. I suppose also, the recent pictures of Pluto are faked as well, eh.
We also must not have rovers driving around Mars as we speak also.

You have a far reaching paranoia.


Originally posted by sonhouse
Ah, so ISS is fake now? How do explain the fact I saw it with my own two eyes, well one eye, the other through my telescope on night when it passed overhead?

Also, why would the Russians be in on the conspiracy also? You have to widen your paranoia to the entire scientific world for that to work. The Chinese, the Italians, the Brits, the Russians and Ame ...[text shortened]... must not have rovers driving around Mars as we speak also.

You have a far reaching paranoia.
Whatever your claims are, you have yet to answer one simple question.

If all of what has been presented about the shape of the earth, about space, why has NASA repeatedly and consistently lied?

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