Originally posted by StarrmanThe computer is at stage one. Stage two will be the building of it. All of its components will be new. I told the man that the order of importance and quality to me was numbr 1. Video Card and Central Processor. Number 2. Motherboard. Number 3. RAM. Number 4. Hard Drive Disk. Number 5. Power Supply Unit. I told the man I wanted a Western Digital Raptor for the hard drive and a NVIDIA 7800 class or so video card and to match the other components. P.S. I read that the days of the single core processor are going to be gone. Is it true that the dual core processors are about to take over?
Pros - Better graphics processing
Cons - Expensive, need a bigger PSU, may need a new motherboard with PCI-E
Originally posted by gambit3Hahaha. Yes, it's a great idea to put Power Supply last on your list, it's not like it is the one part that could go taking out everything else. Also, read this:
The computer is at stage one. Stage two will be the building of it. All of its components will be new. I told the man that the order of importance and quality to me was numbr 1. Video Card and Central Processor. Number 2. Motherboard. Number 3. RAM. Number 4. Hard Drive Disk. Number 5. Power Supply Unit. I told the man I wanted a Western Digital Raptor for t ...[text shortened]... processor are going to be gone. Is it true that the dual core processors are about to take over?
http://shsc.info/PCPartsPickingGuide
it has all the information you are looking for and it's not full of crap.
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Originally posted by XanthosNZI never have had the power to go out . I have more trouble with the video card then any other thing. My computer is running a work load from 60 to 70 pluss hours a week and has done so for about 5 pluss years now. Some 16,000 hours so far. A quick check at gaming computers that I have looked at places a 375 Watt DC Power Supply ect. at the lowest end of the Power Supply. Also I am having a professional to build it. It is his job to use enough power to run the computer.
Hahaha. Yes, it's a great idea to put Power Supply last on your list, it's not like it is the one part that could go taking out everything else. Also, read this:
http://shsc.info/PCPartsPickingGuide
it has all the information you are looking for and it's not full of crap.
Originally posted by gambit3375 watts won't be enough to power a dual graphics setup. Personally I use a 750W, but that's probably overkill. The way to build computers is to look at the limiting factor, ie the part which is going to determine how well the rest will function. It's all very well and good having a powerful graphics card, but if your motherboard and power supply are substandard it limits the function of your top end components.
I never have had the power to go out . I have more trouble with the video card then any other thing. My computer is running a work load from 60 to 70 pluss hours a week and has done so for about 5 pluss years now. Some 16,000 hours so far. A quick check at gaming computers that I have looked at places a 375 Watt DC Power Supply ect. at the lowest end of the ...[text shortened]... o I am having a professional to build it. It is his job to use enough power to run the computer.
Originally posted by gambit33 blown power supplies here. it's a real possibility.
I never have had the power to go out . I have more trouble with the video card then any other thing. My computer is running a work load from 60 to 70 pluss hours a week and has done so for about 5 pluss years now. Some 16,000 hours so far. A quick check at gaming computers that I have looked at places a 375 Watt DC Power Supply ect. at the lowest end of the ...[text shortened]... o I am having a professional to build it. It is his job to use enough power to run the computer.
Originally posted by StarrmanI am depending on a pro to keep things in order. My home computer has never had power problems. Today I talked to the man about having two fans and a well ventilated case. I have decided not to overclock or have two hard drives put in it. I do understand that the AMDs run hot. Will a dual core AMD need the power and will it present cooling problems? I am looking at two game that are in the development stages so I have no idea what computer power they need. I do know they need lots of graphics power.
375 watts won't be enough to power a dual graphics setup. Personally I use a 750W, but that's probably overkill. The way to build computers is to look at the limiting factor, ie the part which is going to determine how well the rest will function. It's all very well and good having a powerful graphics card, but if your motherboard and power supply are substandard it limits the function of your top end components.
Originally posted by gambit3Find out here what power supply you will need.
I am depending on a pro to keep things in order. My home computer has never had power problems. Today I talked to the man about having two fans and a well ventilated case. I have decided not to overclock or have two hard drives put in it. I do understand that the AMDs run hot. Will a dual core AMD need the power and will it present cooling problems? I am loo ...[text shortened]... ges so I have no idea what computer power they need. I do know they need lots of graphics power.
http://www.journeysystems.com/power_supply_calculator.php
gambit3,
When purchasing a computer for gaming you have to go the custom route, you seem have it pretty well sorted out.
The correct order of priority is:
1) The graphics card
2) The motherboard that will support the graphics cards
3) The processor that will fit in the motherboard
Then you can pick and choose everything else however you want.
Going with the Nvidia graphics card is the best option. If you had gone for the same performance and chosen an ATI Radeon card you would have spent a little bit less... but... in a few months from now you could spend a little more cash on another Nvidia graphics card and slot the two cards together using Nvidia's SLI technology, and your graphics performance will improve dramatically.
To do this you must ensure that your motherboard can support SLI. Check this out with your supplier.
Regarding the processor, it's really a difficult time. Intel has just released a new processor, the Core 2 duo, which has shaken AMD right out of bed. So now single core processors are being touted as obsolete, but you'll still find shady specials at all your local computer stores selling el cheapo Celerons with 256mg RAM.
If you go for an Intel CPU you'd probably be perfectly happy with an Intel Pentium 650. This is a single core Pentium 4 processor with an 800mhz FSB and a clock speed of 3.4Ghz. That shouldn't set you back too much.
If you're just running games the chances are pretty good that you wouldn't notice the difference if someone came along and swapped it out with a dual core 3.7ghz Extreme Edition in the middle of the night.
For your hard-drive, get the biggest you can afford. The bigger the drive the faster the drive because the data on the drive has to be stored closer together and in a smaller space.
Also, get a big power supply unit, if you're running two graphics cards you'll need it.
Originally posted by hopscotchSo far CPU is AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core. Video card is NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT. Maybe two of them? PSU and Motherboard are the computerman's choice. He is the expert or at least that is what I expect him to be. I am expecting him to be a professional computerman and a good buisnessman. I N E V E R go back to less then professional service. I will not pay a man two times for crap after all my money is not crap to me.
gambit3,
When purchasing a computer for gaming you have to go the custom route, you seem have it pretty well sorted out.
The correct order of priority is:
1) The graphics card
2) The motherboard that will support the graphics cards
3) The processor that will fit in the motherboard
Then you can pick and choose everything else however you want. ...[text shortened]... Also, get a big power supply unit, if you're running two graphics cards you'll need it.
Originally posted by gambit3That sounds fine then, I'd go for 2 graphics cards if you have the money. Further considerations are that you have a goodly amount of RAM and most important now that you know what your graphics cards can do, you need a monitor that will have the resolution and refresh rate to kick the graphical butt of any game you decide to play.
So far CPU is AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core. Video card is NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT. Maybe two of them? PSU and Motherboard are the computerman's choice. He is the expert or at least that is what I expect him to be. I am expecting him to be a professional computerman and a good buisnessman. I N E V E R go back to less then professional service. I will not pay a man two times for crap after all my money is not crap to me.
Originally posted by StarrmanI am hoping for at least 4 GB RAM. I am going to use my monitor unless it cannot do the job then I am going to have the man to match a low end one. I have never had trouble with a monitor. As far as games go Vanguard: Saga of Heros is number one on my list. Looking at such games as Aion: the Tower of Eternity I can see that lots of graphics power is needed to power the next generation of games. This should make NVIDIA very happy and wealthy.
That sounds fine then, I'd go for 2 graphics cards if you have the money. Further considerations are that you have a goodly amount of RAM and most important now that you know what your graphics cards can do, you need a monitor that will have the resolution and refresh rate to kick the graphical butt of any game you decide to play.
Originally posted by gambit3XP will only make use of a maximum of 4Gb of RAM anyway.
I am hoping for at least 4 GB RAM. I am going to use my monitor unless it cannot do the job then I am going to have the man to match a low end one. I have never had trouble with a monitor. As far as games go Vanguard: Saga of Heros is number one on my list. Looking at such games as Aion: the Tower of Eternity I can see that lots of graphics power is needed to power the next generation of games. This should make NVIDIA very happy and wealthy.
Originally posted by StarrmanMonitor info shows 32 bit, up to 2048 by 1536 pixels screen resolution, and a refresh rate of 60 Hertz. Is this good bad or indifferent?
That sounds fine then, I'd go for 2 graphics cards if you have the money. Further considerations are that you have a goodly amount of RAM and most important now that you know what your graphics cards can do, you need a monitor that will have the resolution and refresh rate to kick the graphical butt of any game you decide to play.