girls wearing makeup

Originally posted by Suzianne
If we're speaking in general terms, then I think yes. Face it, the hormone responsible for perpetuating the species is testosterone. Did you know that it is actually circulating levels of testosterone that regulates sex drive in women as well as men? Obviously, men have way higher levels of testosterone, so I think that's what causes them to always be up ...[text shortened]... w as guys, and yes, I think this is generally a maturity issue, as well as a hormonal issue.

Thank you for the considered response.

And yes, I do know about testosterone's necessity to women's sexual health, but I just found out moments ago that it is a precursor to the production of estrogen. That, I didn't know.

And it's even worse online, most of the time. Guys seem to think anonymity grants them licenses to be pigs. All that matters to most guys is your pic (and *always*, the dirtier the better), and even then, if you're even a little beautiful, they claim it's not you. Ingrates.

So very true.

Originally posted by SJ247
So very true.

have you been approached by the same guys as me tonight dear... I know exactly what you mean... no wonder women get dissatified by men so easily...

Originally posted by Suzianne
The fact is that women use makeup because they buy into Hollywood and society's claim that if they're not beautiful, they're nobody.

Why shouldn't they like to take care of themselves? I find it ridiculous to assume that if someone uses make up implies that she lacks confidence in herself.

If I shave, do I lack confidence in myself? It's blatantly obvious that no. Why should make-up be different?

I know you'll say that make-up is not a part of your body, but then think about wearing a necklace. Does it imply lack of confidence? Nope.

Originally posted by Palynka
Why shouldn't they like to take care of themselves? I find it ridiculous to assume that if someone uses make up implies that she lacks confidence in herself.

If I shave, do I lack confidence in myself? It's blatantly obvious that no. Why should make-up be different?

I know you'll say that make-up is not a part of your body, but then think about wearing a necklace. Does it imply lack of confidence? Nope.

Perhaps, but I'll bet you'd look better without that mustache.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Perhaps, but I'll bet you'd look better without that mustache.

Agreed, but same goes for your 'Deus Caritas Est' tattoo across the pelvic region.

Originally posted by Palynka
Why shouldn't they like to take care of themselves? I find it ridiculous to assume that if someone uses make up implies that she lacks confidence in herself.

If I shave, do I lack confidence in myself? It's blatantly obvious that no. Why should make-up be different?

I know you'll say that make-up is not a part of your body, but then think about wearing a necklace. Does it imply lack of confidence? Nope.

Wow, why are you climbing all over me? Did you even read the rest of my posts here?

I admit that the part of my post you replied to is an over-generalization.

I happen to use makeup, and yes, it's because I like being attractive to others, not because I lack confidence or any crap like that. Your post here is the first in this thread citing any perceived lack of confidence as a cause for using makeup, so nobody here is assuming that at all.

Originally posted by Michelle Plassan
have you been approached by the same guys as me tonight dear... I know exactly what you mean... no wonder women get dissatified by men so easily...

I don't know who you've been approached by, but I know that I've been accused at this site of being a man, and putting a fake picture in my profile, because I talk smack. I've also been teased because I have big dark eyebrows, and called, let's see, a "slapper", a transexual, androgynous, etc...

The place can be pretty crazy, and I agreed with Suzianne's observation that it is because it's online. I've never received comments or attitudes like this "offline". And I do talk smack offline as well.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Your post here is the first in this thread citing any perceived lack of confidence as a cause for using makeup, so nobody here is assuming that at all.

You said it was an over-generalization. Perfect, I agree. But the following quote WAS about lack of confidence.

The fact is that women use makeup because they buy into Hollywood and society's claim that if they're not beautiful, they're nobody.

Originally posted by SJ247
I don't know who you've been approached by, but I know that I've been accused at this site of being a man, and putting a fake picture in my profile, because I talk smack. I've also been teased because I have big dark eyebrows, and called, let's see, a "slapper", a transexual, androgynous, etc...

The place can be pretty crazy, and I agreed with Suzianne's o ...[text shortened]... ved comments or attitudes like this "offline". And I do talk smack offline as well.

Yeah, I know what you mean, although I haven't yet on *this* site been accused of being a guy, I do get the more typical "dumb bitch", "why don't you go play with your dolls and leave the other stuff to us guys who know what we're talking about", etc...

On other sites I've been attacked because I refused to email a guy a pic of my breasts, or because I refused to get on a web cam and "prove" I'm a woman, etc, etc, etc... It's very rare indeed that I can make a guy friend on a site that has nothing to do with sex (I could almost see it if it was a sex chat site or something), without eventually, somewhere down the road, being asked to "prove" I'm a woman, in one way or another. In my case, having been horribly abused between the ages of 16 and 18 by the first so-called "love of my life" makes me a little more skittish than most of exposing myself in any way online, but of course, guys tend not to believe that either, so I've given up trying to explain myself. If some guy doesn't like what I say or do (or don't do), then that's just too bad. If that makes me a "bitch" (which, of course, it usually does), then so be it.

Of course, this is all examples of crap I get online... offline, I just get the typical crap most women get, which I've learned to deal with, except I still tend to freak out a little if someone grabs me like in a bar or something, but karate lessons have helped me deal with that (I mean the countering the fear part, not kicking him across the room, hehe).

Originally posted by Suzianne
I happen to use makeup, and yes, it's because I like being attractive to others, not because I lack confidence or any crap like that. Your post here is the first in this thread citing any perceived lack of confidence as a cause for using makeup, so nobody here is assuming that at all.

so, if you were going out with someone who you had gotten to know very well and you liked each other a lot would you go out wih him wearing a lot of make up? even if you were naturally pretty anyway and you knew he didn't like all the junk girls wear on their face?

i accept most girls (ugly, plain or pretty) will wear i bit of makeup when going out but.......

Originally posted by trevor33
so, if you were going out with someone who you had gotten to know very well and you liked each other a lot would you go out wih him wearing a lot of make up? even if you were naturally pretty anyway and you knew he didn't like all the junk girls wear on their face?

i accept most girls (ugly, plain or pretty) will wear i bit of makeup when going out but.......

"A lot of makeup" is pretty subjective. I don't use "a lot" of makeup now. Even so, if I was in a position like you describe, I would probably make an effort to tone it down even more.

But I wear enough makeup to make myself more attractive, even though I'm not ugly by any stretch. I'm 29, so by now, I have a pretty good idea what works and what doesn't. If I was with a guy that really, really had a problem with that, and couldn't see it made me a little more attractive, and insisted that I wear little to none, I'd reduce it some to humor him, but if he continued having a problem with it, or even wanted me to go out looking not my best so other guys wouldn't be attracted to me, I'd probably eventually tell him to shove off. I've had enough of guys who want to control me.

The bottom line is if I was with a guy like that who tried to control me like that, I wouldn't "like him a whole lot" for very long. It's a pretty horrible character trait.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Yeah, I know what you mean, although I haven't yet on *this* site been accused of being a guy, I do get the more typical "dumb bitch", "why don't you go play with your dolls and leave the other stuff to us guys who know what we're talking about", etc...

On other sites I've been attacked because I refused to email a guy a pic of my breasts, or because I r ...[text shortened]... an the countering the fear part, not kicking him across the room, hehe).

well Spoken Suzianne. I think you put it well condidering the male heavy site that RHP/TFC is

Originally posted by mochiron
well Spoken Suzianne. I think you put it well condidering the male heavy site that RHP/TFC is

Thanks. 🙂

Being a woman on a "male heavy" site like this is good and bad. You get the opportunity to talk with a lot of guys, sure, but you also have to deal with a lot of a-holes. Some of whom just don't like women, for whatever reason. Fortunately, they're in the minority.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Thanks. 🙂

Being a woman on a "male heavy" site like this is good and bad. You get the opportunity to talk with a lot of guys, sure, but you also have to deal with a lot of a-holes. Some of whom just don't like women, for whatever reason. Fortunately, they're in the minority.

Well I think you deal with it well. It is a pity you get so much abuse. Dont worry the Perditions Flame will take care of yOU