Originally posted by trev33How many you think got your off beat humor? 😛
try keeping to the thread topic... the potencial usage of kilos of coke is at stake here.
It is a serious problem, especially where this poor soul has found himself. He is fortunate to have people who actually care about him.
Originally posted by KJCavalierPerhaps consulting with a licensed substance abuse counselor to explore treatment options would help. Sounds like there may underlying coping issues triggering the binges. He may have major deppressive disorder, for example. A thorough evaluation may be in order. Depending on which part of the Gulf Coast you're in there may be resources. You might try finding the local mental health services either where you reside or explore what assistance is available on a statewide basis. Like the other posters I agree he needs to want to stop drinking, but sometimes this is impossible under any underlynig disorder is first identified and treated. Good luck and may God bless you for your efforts.
Ok here is the story in a nutshell.
In my church we have a homeless ministry where we feed the homeless, offer clothing and supplies, as well as encouragement. We also try to help those we see try to make themselves better. (Please don't ask for a criteria for what makes us feel one deserves more help than another, it's just a feeling thing).
Anyway ...[text shortened]... alid suggestions please. I know the temptation answers and they really won't help this time.
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Originally posted by Very Rustyif i get one laugh out of 3 million i'm happy 😉
How many you think got your off beat humor? 😛
It is a serious problem, especially where this poor soul has found himself. He is fortunate to have people who actually care about him.
sorry but i have no sympathy for an addict of any kind. well, maybe a sex addicts wife or husband.
Originally posted by KJCavalierthis may sound cruel...
How do you get someone to want it before rock bottom hits?
but,
you cannot...
the addict may "think" he wants to quit, and may even cry out fer help...
it sounds as if your project has already done that...
BUT,
here comes reality again...
he finds whatever iz in tha bottle to be better than whatever is haunting him...
when he knows he will die or go insane if he does not quit, then he will be ready...
sorry fer my hardness...
it iz what it iz...
prayer iz pretty much all that you have...
rookie
Originally posted by HootDifferent ways for everyone AA never did a thing for me, but I don't know that I was really ready at that time.
AA, Alcoholics Anonymous, has an extensively proven and widespread network of meetings for alcoholics of all varieties. No need to reinvent the wheel. Worked for me these past 24 years.
To begin with you have to know that you have the problem and actually admit it to yourself. Then decide that you are going to quit, and make that a priority above everything else.
I found for me, it was a matter of getting away from my so called friends, who were actually drinking buddies. I took chess back up, and made it a point to stear clear of anyone who drank for the first year.
Sober now for 17 years.
Congrats on your 24!
Originally posted by trev33What about an addict's children? His own wife?
if i get one laugh out of 3 million i'm happy 😉
sorry but i have no sympathy for an addict of any kind. well, maybe a sex addicts wife or husband.
What if that addict has a position of power where lives are in the balance?
What if it was your own life?
KJ I'm a very young addict, but I've struggled with my own mental-model and toils
just the same as any addict, of any age has. My recommendation is almost exactly the
same as WW's. If he doesn't want help, he won't get it. True.
Step one is definitely encouraging the need to change. Many cannot be encouraged to
change until they hit rock bottom, and realize they cannot continue on that way. The
hardest part of what your doing, is building up two worlds, each with its own hunger and
consequences... The addict will not choose the world which is most beautiful. The addict
will not choose the world which is most beneficial. The addict will choose the world which
feels best.
Addicts choose to change, because things start to feel better in the new world. As
soon as an Addicts habits begin to change there is hope. However, relapsing is easy
when the new world gets hard and doesn't feel as good anymore.
As a member of a church, I think your of the understanding of the importance of love,
passion, truth, respect, and general encouragement. Addicts need it all the more.
Help an addict gain a vertical alignment. Help an addict gain habits of goal setting,
goal attainment, and the feeling of achievement. I meen habits. Literally. Make
it into a habit, to be good, and to feel good about being good, and suddenly, you
may have created a new, healthy addict.
Just never forget, an addict is an addict for life.
-GIN
Originally posted by wormwoodWise words.
I've never seen a drunk getting straight without his own will. and I've tried everything, over and over and over again. it's what you do when you're raised up by one. but you just can't make it happen for someone else, it has to come from inside.
the best you can do is provide an environment to make it possible, compassion and dignity. and keep doing it. ...[text shortened]... of them, believe they can make it, so that's probably the main problem to address.
Originally posted by KJCavalierAssuming he knows he has a problem and needs help, then alcoholics annonimous would probably be a good start. I've never been, but i'd assume it is free. I can't really see them asking for money from their patients, most alcoholics spend their money on booze long before they'd spend it on rehab.
Ok here is the story in a nutshell.
In my church we have a homeless ministry where we feed the homeless, offer clothing and supplies, as well as encouragement. We also try to help those we see try to make themselves better. (Please don't ask for a criteria for what makes us feel one deserves more help than another, it's just a feeling thing).
Anyway ...[text shortened]... alid suggestions please. I know the temptation answers and they really won't help this time.
Good luck and big respect for taking the time to help someone! 🙂