Originally posted by Trev33Trev, are you saying that when a parent tells a kid not to play with guns because they
If you think negativity is not getting that toy you want I'd agree with you, i'm not talking about that though. Personal negativity is the issue i have, parents telling their kids they can't do something when actually they probably could. If a child doesn't get self-confidence from their parents where is it going to come from?
are dangerous, but the kid's friend has a gun and they play with it any because they
can, then they shouldn't bear the wrath of the parents for disobedience and their
endangerment?
How about when parents tell their kids to go to school every day and pay attention in
class so they don't grow up without an education, but the kid doesn't feel like he/she
should have to go to school because they would rather go fishing or shopping. Are the
parents not entitled to show them some severe negativity? If they aren't allowed that
then they should kick the kid to the curb and be done with them. That is far worse in
my opinion than expressing some negativity, wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by shortcircuitGo to school - learn and you'll have a better life. That sounds positive to me. Maybe they should find out why the kid doesn't want to go to school, as it turns out fisherman or personal shopper might be perfect careers for them.
Trev, are you saying that when a parent tells a kid not to play with guns because they
are dangerous, but the kid's friend has a gun and they play with it any because they
can, then they shouldn't bear the wrath of the parents for disobedience and their
endangerment?
How about when parents tell their kids to go to school every day and pay attentio ...[text shortened]... hem. That is far worse in
my opinion than expressing some negativity, wouldn't you agree?
As far as the gun scenario, are they going around to the friends house to see the conditions in which the guns are being used? Just because you don't agree or understand doesn't make it wrong.
What does a kid hear when you say 'you can't do that'? Is support and safety advice better than the kid going behind their back and doing it anyway? I think so, you can't control what they do but you can give them as much information and support as possible so they hopefully make the right choices.
Originally posted by Trev33if that what you're talking about then I agree with you. Kids need to know their parents are behind them becasue if they don't then when things go worng they won't turn to their parents.
Go to school - learn and you'll have a better life. That sounds positive to me. Maybe they should find out why the kid doesn't want to go to school, as it turns out fisherman or personal shopper might be perfect careers for them.
As far as the gun scenario, are they going around to the friends house to see the conditions in which the guns are being used? ...[text shortened]... em as much information and support as possible so they hopefully make the right choices.
Originally posted by Trev33Surely you can't be serious!!!
Go to school - learn and you'll have a better life. That sounds positive to me. Maybe they should find out why the kid doesn't want to go to school, as it turns out fisherman or personal shopper might be perfect careers for them.
As far as the gun scenario, are they going around to the friends house to see the conditions in which the guns are being used? ...[text shortened]... em as much information and support as possible so they hopefully make the right choices.
When the law says you can't kill people, when surely you have the ability to, are you
saying it is okay?
If the parents don't educate the child to the do's and don'ts of society, you end up with
screwed up kids who think they own the world and are bullet proof. That is not the way
it is done in society. Sometimes it requires severe re-enforcement of the "don't" part to
get the kid's attention. This soft play crap doesn't work in many instances which is
exactly why there is so much crap going on today in the world. You can attempt to
place the blame on negativity, but that is total crap. It is due to letting kids run wild.
You are correct that you should explain the options to kids and give them the basis
to make good and proper decisions, but if they do not face punishments for their
indiscretions, then they won't understand it when society and the law stand them on
their head for improper choices.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI think we're talking about different things.
Surely you can't be serious!!!
When the law says you can't kill people, when surely you have the ability to, are you
saying it is okay?
If the parents don't educate the child to the do's and don'ts of society, you end up with
screwed up kids who think they own the world and are bullet proof. That is not the way
it is done in society. Sometimes ...[text shortened]... derstand it when society and the law stand them on
their head for improper choices.
Of course there should be consequences to people actions, if not how are you supposed to learn and prevent such actions in the future? There's different ways of dealing with it though. You can teach a kid the laws of society without shouting down the word 'don't' constantly.
Originally posted by Trev33Don't say that. Don't you know that kids don't know anything. 😛😉
I think we're talking about different things.
Of course there should be consequences to people actions, if not how are you supposed to learn and prevent such actions in the future? There's different ways of dealing with it though. You can teach a kid the laws of society without shouting down the word 'don't' constantly.
Originally posted by Trev33Totally agree. Since parents are an impressionable child's first role models, it's little wonder that their early impact is so permanent and powerful. Formation of both the psyche and character of an adult human being is traceable to home life in childhood. Wise and loving parents recognize their awesome responsibility embraces both teaching the child obedience, respect for the privacy and rights of others; and providing encouragement to dream impossible dreams and to achieve its goals no matter how lofty.
If you think negativity is not getting that toy you want I'd agree with you, i'm not talking about that though. Personal negativity is the issue i have, parents telling their kids they can't do something when actually they probably could. If a child doesn't get self-confidence from their parents where is it going to come from?
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Originally posted by shortcircuitNo... don't tell your kid he can't have something just tell he can have it "if" he mows the lawn etc.
Show me a kid who has never been subjected to any negativity by their parents, and I'll show you a spoiled brat.
You could do it without spoiling your child if you could do it at all.
Originally posted by shortcircuitYou sound like the kinda person who uses his belt. 😛
Surely you can't be serious!!!
When the law says you can't kill people, when surely you have the ability to, are you
saying it is okay?
If the parents don't educate the child to the do's and don'ts of society, you end up with
screwed up kids who think they own the world and are bullet proof. That is not the way
it is done in society. Sometimes ...[text shortened]... derstand it when society and the law stand them on
their head for improper choices.