Originally posted by SpastiGovWhat? You got it all wrong.
Ok call me an outsider but I've always wondered why Kansas is pronounced 'Kansas', as you would expect, while Arkansas is pronounced 'Arkansaw'!! What's that all about? Or alternatively, why isn't Kansas pronounced 'Kansaw'? I mean lets be consistent here.
Kansas
Arkansas
Arkensaw.
3 TOTALLY different places.
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Originally posted by SpastiGovblame the french.
Ok call me an outsider but I've always wondered why Kansas is pronounced 'Kansas', as you would expect, while Arkansas is pronounced 'Arkansaw'!! What's that all about? Or alternatively, why isn't Kansas pronounced 'Kansaw'? I mean lets be consistent here.
Originally posted by SpastiGovAnd you're thinking the English language is consistent?
Ok call me an outsider but I've always wondered why Kansas is pronounced 'Kansas', as you would expect, while Arkansas is pronounced 'Arkansaw'!! What's that all about? Or alternatively, why isn't Kansas pronounced 'Kansaw'? I mean lets be consistent here.
Originally posted by SpastiGov0 games, 0 moves.
Ok call me an outsider but I've always wondered why Kansas is pronounced 'Kansas', as you would expect, while Arkansas is pronounced 'Arkansaw'!! What's that all about? Or alternatively, why isn't Kansas pronounced 'Kansaw'? I mean lets be consistent here.
Don't tell me you joined RHP simply to ask this question?
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Originally posted by joneschrWell actually no. I joined to play chess but found taking the piss out of Americans was more fun. I mean don't get me wrong, I like Americans and all that and think America won the war and invented sliced bread blah blah blah, but they are a peculiar breed.
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Don't tell me you joined RHP simply to ask this question?
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wikipedia for Arkansas points to:
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0302b&L=ads-l&P=7800
"As for Ozark, it is (almost certainly) an Americanization of the French "aux
Arks", meaning 'in the country of the Arks (Arkansas) Indians'.
...
The name "Arkansa" was first used by the French, after 1673, applied to a
Quapaw village and its residents. The earliest French exploration of the
region (de Soto had been through in 1541 for Spain, but did not stay long,
and left no trace, not even a DeSoto) was by Joliet, along with the Jesuit
missionary Marquette, and a few French-speaking fur trappers. They came
down the Mississippi as far as the mouth of the present-day Arkansas River
by July 1673. A Quapaw village was near the mouth of the river. Though the
Quapaw were friendly, Joliet and his party did not stay long, apparently
because they heard there were hostile tribes to the south. But in March
1684 French explorer La Salle and his party (who navigated the Mississippi
all the way down to the Gulf of Mexico, and claimed the entire territory for
France, calling it "Louisiana"😉 came to the same village and stayed for some
days with the Quapaw (whose hospitality they described in glowing terms)
before heading further downstream. The Quapaw village was near present-day
Pea Ridge, AR.
The French "Arkansa" came to be used to designate one member of the Quapaw;
"Arkansas," also used by the French, was the plural. The final S of the
plural was not sounded, per French practice. The French plural
pronunciation and spelling led to the American practice, although the
spelling "Arkansaw" actually appears in the act that created the territory
that later became the state of Arkansas. Of course, we still do not
pronounce the final S in "Arkansas" -- well, most of us don't.
So the "-ark" of "Ozark" and the "Ark-" of "Arkansas," names applied to many
geographic features and political divisions, are the same element, stemming
from a shortening of the French designation for one village of the Quapaw
Sioux. That village was in eastern Arkansas, near the Mississippi, while
the Ozarks are in the western part of the state. So the name (despite being
a shortening) has a long and widespread history. You might say that the
shortening gave rise to the name Ozark.
"
Originally posted by zeeblebotThank you Mr. zeeblebot. That made for interesting reading!
wikipedia for Arkansas points to:
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0302b&L=ads-l&P=7800
"As for Ozark, it is (almost certainly) an Americanization of the French "aux
Arks", meaning 'in the country of the Arks (Arkansas) Indians'.
...
The name "Arkansa" was first used by the French, after 1673, applied to a
Quapaw village and its ...[text shortened]... . You might say that the
shortening gave rise to the name Ozark.
"
Originally posted by SpastiGovmust be somebody's second account
Well actually no. I joined to play chess but found taking the piss out of Americans was more fun. I mean don't get me wrong, I like Americans and all that and think America won the war and invented sliced bread blah blah blah, but they are a peculiar breed.
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomDon't be silly, doesn't everyone join random websites simply to annoy people? - makes perfect sense to me!
must be somebody's second account
Why, just today I joined the alcoholics anon website and posted 50 pictures of alchoholic beverages, just for kicks.