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Lords of Conquest - Shogun

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I believe I've purchased troops in AoC while gifting a Province at the same time. I got the troops.
ATY - fancy a game of MDII?

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Originally posted by treetalk
ATY - fancy a game of MDII?
l do, can you wait a few weeks.

i spoke to Drakkar at work (he is back now) and he said he might be in a few weeks time.

Let me know

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Originally posted by Suzianne
It appears that this is correct. Also, any troops you make (and are thus still in the garrison when the province is handed over) are automatically placed into new units, so you cannot use this as a way to give troops. They get the province with an empty garrison and the troops you just made are in a new unit in the same province, but outside the garrison. ...[text shortened]... mething in the rules and its implementation in the game can sometimes be two different things.
Hi Suzi,

You can build troops the turn you cede a province - not sure about the no passage rights though 9if you offer passage rights in the same turn it should be fine.

Cheers

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Originally posted by nook7
l do, can you wait a few weeks.

i spoke to Drakkar at work (he is back now) and he said he might be in a few weeks time.

Let me know
Cool - should I start a thread now? It'd probably take 3 weeks before it'd start ...

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Originally posted by treetalk
ATY - fancy a game of MDII?
Nah. No1 invited me into a game with him and I ended up botting out despite being in an excellent position. I'm just not enjoying games of any kind any more like I used to. I stopped playing AGE games when I bought Civ IV because it took their place, and now I'm finding it's boring too.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Nah. No1 invited me into a game with him and I ended up botting out despite being in an excellent position. I'm just not enjoying games of any kind any more like I used to. I stopped playing AGE games when I bought Civ IV because it took their place, and now I'm finding it's boring too.
Civ 4 - I have wasted a lot of time on that game ... 🙁

If you change your mind ... the games are getting better, I think ... little diplomacy and lots of random carnage. 😀

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Originally posted by nook7
Hi Suzi,

You can build troops the turn you cede a province - not sure about the no passage rights though 9if you offer passage rights in the same turn it should be fine.

Cheers
Now ceding a province is different than gifting a province. Which do you mean?

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Now ceding a province is different than gifting a province. Which do you mean?
l believe it is the same for both.

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You can definitely build units in a city that you gift to another player on the same turn that the transfer of ownership takes place. I have done this a number of times. In situations where my new troops were "born" in territories without them having passage rights, nothing occurred. "Being in" a province is different than "passage" into one. Revoked passage rights, for example, can not evict unwanted guests.

Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by Gottschalk
You can definitely build units in a city that you gift to another player on the same turn that the transfer of ownership takes place. I have done this a number of times. In situations where my new troops were "born" in territories without them having passage rights, nothing occurred. "Being in" a province is different than "passage" into one. Revoked passage rights, for example, can not evict unwanted guests.

Hope this helps.
This makes perfect sense, I suspected as much.

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Originally posted by nook7
l believe it is the same for both.
But ceding a province only revokes your annexation of it. If you're still there with your armies, you still have ownership, so naturally you can build.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
But ceding a province only revokes your annexation of it. If you're still there with your armies, you still have ownership, so naturally you can build.
You are correct, l was noty referring to this, rather the question of wether the orders would be successful which Gottschalk as correctly pointed out.

Cheers

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Originally posted by Gottschalk
You can definitely build units in a city that you gift to another player on the same turn that the transfer of ownership takes place. I have done this a number of times. In situations where my new troops were "born" in territories without them having passage rights, nothing occurred. "Being in" a province is different than "passage" into one. Revoked passage rights, for example, can not evict unwanted guests.

Hope this helps.
I did it in two different games - all went as hoped.

Only puzzling thing was a comment in my messages; 'no Garrison was disbanded, as the fleet's location was now controlled by another realm, and the fleet had nowhere to flee to'

Don't appear to have lost any ships and I didn't build any in the province I gifted ...

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Ah, victory tastes so sweet...

The reckless charge by the Tokugawa was deflected by my strategic brilliance and the brave Satake troops in Kanagawa. My cunning foresight means that Tokugawa's army was soundly routed.
In the (ever expanding) Satake lands, this day is now a public holiday, in memory of the brave soldiers who lay their lives down against the Tokugawa rabble.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Ah, victory tastes so sweet...

The reckless charge by the Tokugawa was deflected by my strategic brilliance and the brave Satake troops in Kanagawa. My cunning foresight means that Tokugawa's army was soundly routed.
In the (ever expanding) Satake lands, this day is now a public holiday, in memory of the brave soldiers who lay their lives down against the Tokugawa rabble.
Hey, he's a rookie and doing at least as well as a certain previous "Tokugawa" did - maybe better. I'll have to go back to the old turnfiles and review the evidence.

Plus, he doesn't let his Mrs. visit every boozy backwater sea shack in Nippon giving "comfort" to the eager patrons like someone did...