Originally posted by SuzianneAlso, R&B seems to still be an evolving term. A lot of R&B nowadays includes a lot of funk and a lot of people also lump R&B in with hip-hop. This is not the R&B I'm talking about. My original post was mainly talking about soul and the R&B which is inspired by soul, definitely not anything done since, oh, I'd say 1990 or so...
We must not be listening to the same R&B then, or more likely, the R&B bands you listen to who call themselves R&B are really more of an R&B/rap fusion.
Think Ray Charles. Think James Brown. This is the R&B I'm talking about.
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Originally posted by SuzianneYou've got some weird category thing there. 'R&B' is modern bump and grind style music, it often features rap. For 'Rhythm and Blues' think Count Basie, BB King, Howling wolf. 'Soul' is later stuff like James Brown. Artists like Ray Charles span the distance between R&B and Soul.
Also, R&B seems to still be an evolving term. A lot of R&B nowadays includes a lot of funk and a lot of people also lump R&B in with hip-hop. This is not the R&B I'm talking about. My original post was mainly talking about soul and the R&B which is inspired by soul, definitely not anything done since, oh, I'd say 1990 or so...
Think Ray Charles. Think James Brown. This is the R&B I'm talking about.
If you're talking about James Brown and Ray Charles you're really talking soul, with the occasional blues influence. I don't know of any modern day R&B that includes 'Funk', I dread to think what you think a funk sound is.
Originally posted by StarrmanI'm only a little confused. R&B did in fact influence soul, not the other way around, thus the crossover in material from artists like Ray Charles and James Brown.
You've got some weird category thing there. 'R&B' is modern bump and grind style music, it often features rap. For 'Rhythm and Blues' think Count Basie, BB King, Howling wolf. 'Soul' is later stuff like James Brown. Artists like Ray Charles span the distance between R&B and Soul.
If you're talking about James Brown and Ray Charles you're really tal ...[text shortened]... odern day R&B that includes 'Funk', I dread to think what you think a funk sound is.
The beginning of the transition of R&B occurred in the 60s, when several "rock and roll" tunes were featured on the R&B hit lists as well. By the 70s, funk, which was a backlash of the death of disco, became enmeshed into a lot of R&B. In the 90s, R&B continued to evolve into what you hear today. I believe that modern-day R&B, unfortunately, has been tainted by the hip-hop influence. So much so, that people seem to think that R&B is only what we hear today, when that's just not true.
As far as what you say about what I'm talking about is soul, not R&B, yes, you're right. The main focus of my initial posts in this topic was soul. And the R&B of that era, the era of Motown, which also is mainly a spin-off of soul.
