Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe lists are still interesting to the popcorn gallery - we can't see your troops on the map.
No more than you do.
EDIT - Since you no longer seem interested, I'll stop posting such lists. Just trying to do a favor for a friend.
Although having said that, it's often more fun just to pick up from the general dialogue in this thread who is in bed with who.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungPeasant.
Too bad. You don't matter. No offense 🙂.
Since I'm not ashamed for others to see my brilliant campaigns and maneuvers, I've arranged to send Orf a copy of my resultfile. I'd offer the same thing to anybody who was interested, but unfortunately there's a place in the resultfile where it gives the password you use when you upload your turnfile. Orf being a fellow legal professional (kinda) who understands confidentiality (HMMMM, ATY) I don't have any problem providing it to him, but since I don't want my troops to start wandering in an aimless manner (the "Bavarian Waltz" we in the Republic call it), I think I'll keep the password from the general public.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungDon't spoil the fun! Your simplistic assessments of the leadership and motivation of the Men in Black (viva Johnny Cash!*) make for entertaining reading.
EDIT - Since you no longer seem interested, I'll stop posting such lists. Just trying to do a favor for a friend.
*Listen out for the Mediaeval Diplomacy soundtrack, appearing soon in a looted boutique near you
Originally posted by rwingettHave you discontinued the traditional Mongol practice of razing cities to make space for grazing? Are you making pyramids of lopped hands?
The Great Khan is too busy personally leading the assault on Minsk to worry about such trifles at the moment. Staying cooped up in that musty old yurt was too boring. Had to bring my good old war chariot out of the garage and wax it up. It's good to be thundering across the steppes again, smiting foes right and left.
Originally posted by no1marauderCan I at least have some Venetian popcorn?
Peasant.
Since I'm not ashamed for others to see my brilliant campaigns and maneuvers, I've arranged to send Orf a copy of my resultfile. I'd offer the same thing to anybody who was interested, but unfortunately there's a place in the resultfile where it gives the password you use when you upload your turnfile. Orf being a fellow legal professi ...[text shortened]... z" we in the Republic call it), I think I'll keep the password from the general public.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungIt's interesting how there's a rough line going along the southern borders of Roum, turning northwest at Crete and sliding along the coast of Greece and my border and then along the Bavarian/Venetian front and then slicing Scotland and part of England off of the rest of England which roughly separates the two sides and those who they seem to be friendly to. Our side seems a bit bigger. I wonder what that means for Pope Ivanhoe's side?
According to Venetian claims, here's this turn's composition of alliances:
[b]Coalition to Smash Papal Power
Bavaria
Saxony
Hungary
Poland
Puppets of the Paranoid Pope
Venice
Sicily
Aragon
Castile
Mamulukes
Morocco
Arles
That's quite an alliance, no1Hussein. I'm surprised so many people are supporting your cause cons uck to your allies. You've made it very, very clear how little loyalty you have.[/b]
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYour math is a bit off. Totally the gold province values of the countries on your list the Heathers have 412 and the Med Alliance 590. Let's give you Roum (for a little while anyway), that still leaves the score 590 v. 504 in the MA favor.
It's interesting how there's a rough line going along the southern borders of Roum, turning northwest at Crete and sliding along the coast of Greece and my border and then along the Bavarian/Venetian front and then slicing Scotland and part of England off of the rest of England which roughly separates the two sides and those who they seem to be friendly to. Our side seems a bit bigger. I wonder what that means for Pope Ivanhoe's side?
I was also looking at the situation at the end of Turn 5 versus the situation as of Turn 10. In that 5 turn period, the Heathers on your list have increased their gold provinces by +25 (Saxony alone has any real increase +31), while the MA has went +82. Even that is misleading, Arles was a member of the Heather Alliance for most of that period before being dismembered by the MA. Putting Arles' total
where it belongs, Heather gold province control is MINUS 10 in the last five turns, while the members of the Med Alliance have went PLUS 117.
Bottom line? You're losing.
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Originally posted by no1marauderI'm talking about extended networks of friends. You've had to work hard to get more distant nations to openly join your cause much earlier than us because you were desperate, which gave you a boost for the moment. There isn't really anyone else for you to reach out to on your side of the map. There are plenty of friendly faces on our side who haven't joined in yet; one likely factor is that we haven't had to try yet as we've been consistently dominant until you built your alliance to 7 (!) members. Now all your earlier whining about not letting a dominant alliance get out of control is going to come bite you in the butt.
Your math is a bit off. Totally the gold province values of the countries on your list the Heathers have 412 and the Med Alliance 590. Let's give you Roum (for a little while anyway), that still leaves the score 590 v. 504 in the MA favor.
I was also looking at the situation at the end of Turn 5 versus the situation as of Turn 10. In that 5 tur hile the members of the Med Alliance have went PLUS 117.
Bottom line? You're losing.
Of course if you manage to work your verbal magic you could get some of the people on our side of the map to help you; that's of course a very real threat. However I think we can manage to show these people that trying to get on the good side of an alliance with 7 people ahead of them on the totem pole while cut off from those same allies would be foolish.
EDIT - Oh, also, were you counting annexed provinces or "controlled" provinces? There seem to be a lot of unannexed provinces on your side. Then again we have Saxony who is (or has been) a Commoner and likely has plenty of unannexed provinces of his own.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungActually the best part about this alliance is that there is no dominant member. Forgetting Arles, we've got 6 nations in the top 12, with no single one being clearly more powerful than the rest. You failed to read my prior posts carefully; I said nations shouldn't allow individual REALMS to get too strong, not that they shouldn't form strong alliances. That is a distinction that you miss.
I'm talking about extended networks of friends. You've had to work hard to get more distant nations to openly join your cause much earlier than us because you were desperate, which gave you a boost for the moment. There isn't really anyone else for you to reach out to on your side of the map. There are plenty of friendly faces on our side who haven't le ahead of them on the totem pole while cut off from those same allies would be foolish.
Maybe realms will jump to the side that consist of a few large realms that are losing but I wouldn't bet my beer money on it. Your smaller allies don't seem to fare very well (ask Arles and now Roum).
EDIT: And Poland as well.
Originally posted by no1marauderI don't like your tone.
Actually the best part about this alliance is that there is no dominant member. Forgetting Arles, we've got 6 nations in the top 12, with no single one being clearly more powerful than the rest. You failed to read my prior posts carefully; I said nations shouldn't allow individual REALMS to get too strong, not that they shouldn't form strong alliances. T ...[text shortened]... eer money on it. Your smaller allies don't seem to fare very well (ask Arles and now Roum).