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Next round of the RHP Photo Comp: Still Life

Next round of the RHP Photo Comp: Still Life

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Originally posted by DdV
Ragnorak, did you buy those extension tubes?
I'm in the process of bidding for them on ebay, so fingers crossed.

I can't wait to get them, cos a lot of the shots I've been thinking about recently need to be up really close.

Re still-life here's an interesting page detailing what a member of flickr thinks is a still life photograph. Makes for an interesting read...
http://flickr.com/groups/99766992@N00/

Here's a snippet...
"What are generally NOT still lifes:

1. flowers unless arranged in a container or used as props - never macro shots of any kind
2. single items (a glass on a textured table is two things, for example - a glass on a whited out background is a single thing)
3. people/living things including plant/food shots unless the organic thing is a prop
4. accidents or found things even very very very cool ones
5. minor to major rearrangements of already set or found scenes do not usually make a still life - still lifes are meant to be invented, they are a form of art where illustration and storytelling meet photography."

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
3. people/living things including plant/food shots unless the organic thing is a prop
Does he/she eat his/her food alive? 😲

"My friend and I go for dinner. When he/she goes to the bathroom I notice the place setting looks kind of cool so I ask for a cleaner salt shaker, change out glasses because mine is fuller, add a scarf from the lady at the next table, get the waiter to adjust the lighting, order a basket of rolls for the soft effect and shine my pocket flash light on it and then I get on the chair and take a picture. That's a still life. Barely, but is one."

That sounds like he/she must have very good social skills.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Here's a snippet...
"What are generally NOT still lifes:

1. flowers unless arranged in a container or used as props - never macro shots of any kind
2. single items (a glass on a textured table is two things, for example - a glass on a whited out background is a single thing)
3. people/living things including plant/food shots unless the organic thing i ...[text shortened]... invented, they are a form of art where illustration and storytelling meet photography."

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This shot almost breaks number 2 and breaks number 3--if I understand it correctly--but I'd definitely call it still-life:

http://www.masters-of-photography.com/W/weston/weston_pepper_number30_full.html

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I have a feeling I'm misunderstanding #3. I thought arranged fruit/food was the epitome of still-life? It seems that way in the painters' world. Am I missing something here? What do they mean by "prop"? Anyone else a bit confused? This shouldn't be that hard. Maybe I need to get away from this computer for a while. ha

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Originally posted by pinkthunder
Anyone else a bit confused?
Absolutely. I find number 3 strange, too. I also find it a bit strange to define it by the intention - i.e. if I see something which happens to look like a still life and take a picture of it, it's not a still life, but if I put it together myself in order to create a still life, it is. I would define it by the result. If it looks like a still life, it's a still life for me.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Absolutely. I find number 3 strange, too. I also find it a bit strange to define it by the intention - i.e. if I see something which happens to look like a still life and take a picture of it, it's not a still life, but if I put it together myself in order to create a still life, it is. I would define it by the result. If it looks like a still life, it's a still life for me.
I like your thoughts on that. I'll subscribe to 'em.

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I love Weston's "Pepper #30". I just had to say that. I tried to pay homage to it for this competition, but in the end, my photo was cr@p.

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Originally posted by pinkthunder
I have a feeling I'm misunderstanding #3. I thought arranged fruit/food was the epitome of still-life? It seems that way in the painters' world. Am I missing something here? What do they mean by "prop"? Anyone else a bit confused? This shouldn't be that hard. Maybe I need to get away from this computer for a while. ha
I like the images in this book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/2880465494/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt/104-2276825-3352712?%5Fencoding=UTF8), but if I remember correctly, every rule mentioned above is broken at least once. I can't say for sure, because I'm not sure I understand every rule correctly, and because I lent the book to a friend, so I can't check.

David

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Ding!

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Who wrote those rules? God? In my book, still life is simply an arrangement of static objects. Although I would think that the pepper pic above is borderline, because it is less about the arrangement (there is no arrangement) and more about the oddity of a single object.

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Originally posted by Gatecrasher
Who wrote those rules? God?
Those rules change still life (or the idea of what still life is), and so does God's word: "In a world of changing absolutes, it is nice to know that the unchanging truths of God's Word are still life changing." ( http://www.prbi.edu/page.aspx?id=30310 ) So it could be that God wrote those rules. 😉

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Originally posted by Peachy
I think its time we have a special Forum dedicated for such wonderful activities.

Cheers Nordlys for organising this, the site is becoming much more interesting and I demand they give you and all the others who contribute at least a discount on your next subscription! 😉

Donno if am gonna give it ago, but best of luck to all who do.
I agree! Anything to get her the hell out of the General forum!

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Originally posted by arrakis
I agree! Anything to get her the hell out of the General forum!
Why do you say so?

Even if I didn't participate I enjoyed this kind of competition with very good pics.

Maybe it's time for you to get the hell out of the General Forum.

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Originally posted by Ravello
Why do you say so?

Even if I didn't participate I enjoyed this kind of competition with very good pics.

Maybe it's time for you to get the hell out of the General Forum.
I wouldn't give you the pleasure.

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Originally posted by arrakis
I wouldn't give you the pleasure.
Please don't troll these threads.

If you want to contribute, please do, but please refrain from personally attacking people in here. Start your own thread if that's what you want to do.

Ravello, if you enjoy seeing the photos, consider voting in the next round.

UNITED!!!

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