Originally posted by CrowleyI can understand that there might have been a more picture perfect way of doing it. But there is a better way to do many other things that just gets ignored depending on who does them also. I know that the way it was posted also allowed people to better understand how massive the attack really was. I think that was good to some degree. I think what was so hurtful is that while removing the posts. You left the names of the killers who were responsible for the attacks. Which felt like a poke in the gut and uncaring to many Americans. Me in particular. Still, you took it even further and Removed all of Red Knights posts. SO that much of what was said in the forums thread is out of context and makes little sense now. That seemed a little much and petty. But I know you want to do more I know you will, why because you can. And because you like to be abusive.
The names themselves was never the problem, it was the way Red Night posted it.
Post after post containing hundreds of names in double line spacing = SPAM.
Linking to original site = NOT SPAM.
Can you guys understand this or should I draw you a picture?
Originally posted by cashthetrashOK, a few points.
I can understand that there might have been a more picture perfect way of doing it. But there is a better way to do many other things that just gets ignored depending on who does them also. I know that the way it was posted also allowed people to better understand how massive the attack really was. I think that was good to some degree. I think what was ...[text shortened]... ow you want to do more I know you will, why because you can. And because you like to be abusive.
As we've said MANY times before, the mods don't read every thread and therefore we don't know exactly what is posted in them.
The post with the terrorists' names was removed later, because I had to clean up the spam and there was literally pages of alerted posts, many from the 9-11 thread. The post with the terrorists' names was in bad taste and I would've removed it if I saw it, but I had to start from somewhere and that alert was on the last page.
The tools we use to remove spam are a little crude, so unfortunately some of Red Nights 'good' posts were hidden too.
There was no bad intent on my part, I was just 'cleaning up'.
Originally posted by CrowleyNo need to justify yourself to troller-dee and troller-dum.
OK, a few points.
As we've said MANY times before, the mods don't read every thread and therefore we don't know exactly what is posted in them.
The post with the terrorists' names was removed later, because I had to clean up the spam and there was literally pages of alerted posts, many from the 9-11 thread. The post with the terrorists' names was in bad ...[text shortened]... posts were hidden too.
There was no bad intent on my part, I was just 'cleaning up'.
If they have a problem, they should talk to Russ. Thing is, there is no problem, but they enjoy a bit of mindless conflict in the forums.
Thanks for putting time into keeping these forums great.
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Originally posted by RagnorakOh my God! That is:
No need to justify yourself to troller-dee and troller-dum.
If they have a problem, they should talk to Russ. Thing is, there is no problem, but they enjoy a bit of mindless conflict in the forums.
Thanks for putting time into keeping these forums great.
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(So anti-American | so disrespectful to the 9/11 victims | unfair victimisation of Red Night | a prime example of Euro-snobbery)
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Originally posted by Red NightI alerted it AND I posted the list of terrorists.
It was alerted by someone and removed by Crowley.
Some of us have a problem with the idea that the list was deemed "spam"
Please feel free to try and villainify me instead of lashing out at the RHP community as a whole.
Originally posted by Red NightMy personal feeling is that a list of names - especially 2000 of them - is totally inappropriate for a discussion forum. Next thing could be a complete list of all 200 000 dead in the tsunami disaster, or all six million Jews from WWII. Or the victims of apartheid, or the Iraqi dead or whatever. It would never end because everyone thinks theirs' is a special case.
I posted a list of the 9/11 victims in the 9/11 memorial thread.
It was alerted by someone and removed by Crowley.
Some of us have a problem with the idea that the list was deemed "spam"
Best place is a dedicated website, not a forum. I totally agree with the moderators.
Originally posted by buffalobillditto... I just read the entire thread for the first time and was amazed no-one raised this until your post.
My personal feeling is that a list of names - especially 2000 of them - is totally inappropriate for a discussion forum. Next thing could be a complete list of all 200 000 dead in the tsunami disaster, or all six million Jews from WWII. Or the victims of apartheid, or the Iraqi dead or whatever. It would never end because everyone thinks theirs' is a spe ...[text shortened]... case.
Best place is a dedicated website, not a forum. I totally agree with the moderators.
A "general" discussion forum on a chess website is not a fitting location for a memorial to the dead from ANY event. Take them to www.timeformemorials.com where they belong.
Originally posted by rhbRules of the general forum:
ditto... I just read the entire thread for the first time and was amazed no-one raised this until your post.
A "general" discussion forum on a chess website is not a fitting location for a memorial to the dead from ANY event. Take them to www.timeformemorials.com where they belong.
1) do not take any post seriously.
2) if you start a serious thread, you can be certain it will turn into a farce.
Originally posted by CrowleySo if there had been fewer victims, it wouldn't have been a problem?
The names themselves was never the problem, it was the way Red Night posted it.
Post after post containing hundreds of names in double line spacing = SPAM.
Linking to original site = NOT SPAM.
Can you guys understand this or should I draw you a picture?
We can argue the details all you want, but in the end the posts were:
A. alerted by people who had already expressed their opposition to America and the thread.
AND
B. Removed by a person who had already expressed their opposition to America and the thread.
Originally posted by Red NightWho alerted the posts? Go ahead and let me know.
So if there had been fewer victims, it wouldn't have been a problem?
We can argue the details all you want, but in the end the posts were:
A. alerted by people who had already expressed their opposition to America and the thread.
AND
B. Removed by a person who had already expressed their opposition to America and the thread.
Why post a list with thousands of names when you can post the link?
Chris posted a couple years back to PLEASE link to web info rather than pasting it here.
I posted something right before your list. I saw YOU posting that list... and KNEW it would end up gone soon. I went to bed knowing that list would be gone when I woke the next day.
Next day, it was gone, my posts where where I could find them, and you posted a link to the list and (almost) everyone was happy.
Are you pulling a LULZ here?
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Originally posted by PhlabibitIvanhoe would never post again if he could only put the link to his inane ramblings.
Who alerted the posts? Go ahead and let me know.
Why post a list with thousands of names when you can post the link?
Chris posted a couple years back to PLEASE link to web info rather than pasting it here.
I posted something right before your list. I saw YOU posting that list... and KNEW it would end up gone soon. I went to bed knowing that li ...[text shortened]... sted a link to the list and (almost) everyone was happy.
Are you pulling a LULZ here?
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