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Originally posted by Executioner Brand
when you take an action you can't take ignorance to the cost of those action///////////s unless you are being delusional.
Well Suzianne can't claim ignorance any longer about the supposed "cost" of using the web site's message facility to send me an abusive and threatening message, because she now knows exactly what will happen.

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Originally posted by FMF
Well Suzianne can't claim ignorance any longer about the supposed "cost" of using the web site's message facility to send me an abusive and threatening message, because she now knows exactly what will happen.
it doesn't give you a free ticket to abusive behavior. If you do you are worse and it is a choice you are repeatedly making under the false belief I care. It will have to have a hugh af amount of swearwords in it to equal the costs of your actions.


Originally posted by Executioner Brand
it doesn't give you a free ticket to abusive behavior. If you do you are worse and it is a choice you are repeatedly making under the false belief I care. It will have to have a hugh af amount of swearwords in it to equal the costs of your actions.
I haven't engaged in any abusive behaviour.

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Originally posted by FMF
I haven't engaged in any abusive behaviour.
SO you believe.


Originally posted by Executioner Brand
SO you believe.
The only beliefs I am communicating here are my own. And I take full responsibility for acting upon those beliefs.


Originally posted by Executioner Brand
...the costs of your actions.
What "costs"? The only "costs" that might be in play here are the "costs" to Suzianne of her abusive behaviour when using the web site's messaging facility. On the other hand, she may well be absolutely loving all this attention - and having the likes of robbie carrobie, chaney3, Very Rusty and yourself rooting for her. The only "costs" that might exist in all this are the "costs" to Suzianne of her actions. She could theoretically create a "cost" to me by publishing the message she sent for all to see if she thought it would expose me as a liar and abuser. But, of course, there is a reason why she is not going to publish her message.


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Dive,

GB got a forum ban for sharing a PM! Should anyone else be given a free ticket or should the same punishment be given out to them?

-VR


Originally posted by FMF
What "costs"? The only "costs" that might be in play here are the "costs" to Suzianne of her abusive behaviour when using the web site's messaging facility. On the other hand, she may well be absolutely loving all this attention - and having the likes of robbie carrobie, chaney3, Very Rusty and yourself rooting for her. The only "costs" that might exist in all t ...[text shortened]... liar and abuser. But, of course, there is a reason why she is not going to publish her message.
FMF,

In case you didn't know GB was given a forum ban for sharing a P.M.!! Why should you not be given the same punishment? Do you have special privileges? If I posted every P.M. I found to be threatening from others, I'd look like the big baby you look like, and a person not to be trusted!!!

-VR


Originally posted by Very Rusty
In case you didn't know GB was given a forum ban for sharing a P.M.!! Why should you not be given the same punishment?
I know nothing about Grampy Bobby's case. In my case, I acted in the belief that I have no obligation to keep secret the behaviour of someone who uses the web site's message facility to be abusive and make threats.


Originally posted by FMF
I know nothing about Grampy Bobby's case. In my case, I acted in the belief that I have no obligation to keep secret the behaviour of someone who uses the web site's message facility to be abusive and make threats.
FMF,
You seem to have selective memory or perhaps you were at deaths door at that point in time. You do have an obligation to keep Private Messages private. As I told you if you have a problem with them thinking they are abusive then take the proper steps and inform Administration. They can then look at the conversations between you and the person you are making the accusations towards, and decide.

No, you would rather be a big cry baby about it, in my humble opinion.

-VR

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
You seem to have selective memory or perhaps you were at deaths door at that point in time. You do have an obligation to keep Private Messages private. As I told you if you have a problem with them thinking they are abusive then take the proper steps and inform Administration. They can then look at the conversations between you and the person you are making the accusations towards, and decide.
It is your memory that is selective. I have already explained that I do not have any duty or obligation to keep secret the abusive use of the message facility to issue threats and be abusive.

Further more, I have already explained why I dealt with Suzianne's abuse and insults in the way I did - successfully so, as there have been no more threats or abuse from her.

And I have already explained why I am not interested in asking for the web site's help with dealing with Suzianne because to do so is tantamount to simply keeping her abusive actions secret from those I wanted to inform about it.

The whole thing has worked really well in my estimation because [1] the abuse and threats have ceased [2] Suzianne didn't get a ban [3] her abusive behaviour has not been swept under the carpet and kept secret and [4] other potential abusers of the message facility will be discouraged, as robbie's statements to that effect illustrate.

That you don't agree with any of this is something I can live with.

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Originally posted by FMF
It is your memory that is selective. I have already explained that I do not have any duty or obligation to keep secret the abusive use of the message facility to issue threats and be abusive.

Further more, I have already explained why I dealt with Suzianne's abuse and insults in the way I did - successfully so, as there have been no more threats or abuse fro ...[text shortened]... o that effect illustrate.

That you don't agree with any of this is something I can live with.
vespin,

Here is 5. NO ONE really gives a crap!!!! You just sound like a big baby because someone happened to hurt you delicate feelings. Something you will have to live with!

-VR


Originally posted by Very Rusty
You just sound like a big baby because someone happened to hurt you delicate feelings. Something you will have to live with!
I may well have been guilty of many things during my ten years here, but having "delicate feelings" is certainly not one of them. I am probably one of the most robust and unflappable posters here and I am one who has flourished in many a situation where I was besieged by posters who had little else to offer except their attempts to hurt my feelings. It'd not your fault that you didn't realize this.


Originally posted by Very Rusty
FMF: The whole thing has worked really well in my estimation because [1] the abuse and threats have ceased [2] Suzianne didn't get a ban [3] her abusive behaviour has not been swept under the carpet and kept secret and [4] other potential abusers of the message facility will be discouraged, as robbie's statements to that effect illustrate.

Originally posted by Very Rusty
[b]Here is 5. NO ONE really gives a crap!!!!


Interesting analysis in view of how you and chaney3 and robbie carrobie and Executioner Brand have been in a complete flap about this for 20+ thread pages. They obviously have been giving a crap, and plenty of it.

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Originally posted by FMF
FMF: [b]The whole thing has worked really well in my estimation because [1] the abuse and threats have ceased [2] Suzianne didn't get a ban [3] her abusive behaviour has not been swept under the carpet and kept secret and [4] other potential abusers of the message facility will be discouraged, as robbie's statements to that effect illustrate.

Originally p ...[text shortened]... bout this for 20+ thread pages. They obviously [i]have been giving a crap, and plenty of it.
vespin,

Here is the way it is. You spew the crap, and it is bound to hit you back in the face. Just don't go around crying when someone sends you a P.M. you feel threatened by, which I think is another lie. You just run around looking for sympathy from people, some are suckers enough to buy it, I'll pass on it personally!!! 😉

-VR

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