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Originally posted by FMFI'm a man like any other man FMF, well more of a man child really, still, its a living.
It's a pity you never found a way to be "funny" whilst showing some backbone. You always resort to a noxious blend of verbal diarrhea, ostentatious and calculated lack of principle, bizarre repetition. It's a pity you never found a way to be "funny" and yet behave in a grown up way at the same time. You seem content to sell yourself short, robbie. 😉
Originally posted by robbie carrobiePage 31 and you still have been unable to address the central issue to all this. Do you really, honestly think somebody who has been abused and threatened is guilty of a "heinous betrayal of trust" if they decide not to help keep the abuse and threats secret. You were too busy trying to be ever-so-funny to ever face up to, and address, the key adult issue behind all this. Instead you just resorted to two dozen pages of catchphrases and studiously not genuinely engaging what was up for discussion.
You hurt her FMF and although she is extremely abrasive towards me and esteems me lower than a snake I would not have dreamed of hurting her in this way. Perhaps you were being cruel to be kind in a way, I dunno, but its a shady business.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell now, robbie, you're not the first struggling 40-something man with little or nothing worthwhile to say to have taken to hiding behind a silly responsibility-free "man child" persona.
I'm a man like any other man FMF, well more of a man child really, still, its a living.
Originally posted by FMFFMF,
And isn't that exactly what I've done, too? I've dealt with it in my own way.
You went about it in the wrong way, rather you want to admit it or not. Doesn't matter to me either way.
I am just telling you, your way is not the way things are done. I don't think you felt the least bit threatened by suz. I can smell B.S. a mile away and you Sir, are full of it.
-VR
"Confidentiality" is forgone when the nature of a "private message" becomes "threatening and abusive".
That anyone should be held accountable for revealing the nature of a threatening and abusive "private message" is unsustainable by any objective and rational argument.
If one sends a threatening and abusive PM they should expect such a message can and may be revealed.
If one has something threatening and abusive to say, then for God's sake that one should have the fortitude to say it publicly.
Why should anyone be expected to receive threats and verbal abuse via a PM and not expose it if they so choose?
It's the right of the one receiving abuse to expose the one sending verbal abuse given the warning not to send abusive PM's.
Originally posted by Very RustyReporting her might have resulted in her being forum banned and silenced in public, neither of which I wanted to see happen. It would also have resulted in her truly nasty true colours being hushed up. My spproach offered better outcomes than these.
FMF,
You went about it in the wrong way, rather you want to admit it or not. Doesn't matter to me either way.
I am just telling you, your way is not the way things are done. I don't think you felt the least bit threatened by suz. I can smell B.S. a mile away and you Sir, are full of it.
-VR
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Originally posted by FMFFMF,
[1] Nope, no confidence was betrayed, as explained, though you've dodged discussing it.
[2] I told Suzianne exac tly what I had done.
[3] Suzianne's use of the message facility to make threats and be abusive was not covered up
[4] her free speech would have been curtailed if she'd copped a ban.
[5] Threats crossed the line, trust abrogated
[6] neither of ...[text shortened]... appens
[13] Door to reconciliation not closed and people are free to cast off wheover they want
Here is the truth of the matter, you try and push peoples buttons until they explode on you, then go crying poor me, I am getting threats in P.M. messages. Look how nasty the person is, when in fact you caused it all to start with.
You may have found yourself getting a forum ban, back in the old days you both may have gotten one, yours probably longer for instigating.
-VR
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Originally posted by josephwJosephw,
"Confidentiality" is forgone when the nature of a "private message" becomes "threatening and abusive".
That anyone should be held accountable for revealing the nature of a threatening and abusive "private message" is unsustainable by any objective and rational argument.
If one sends a threatening and abusive PM they should expect such a message can an ...[text shortened]... ceiving abuse to expose the one sending verbal abuse given the warning not to send abusive PM's.
I strongly disagree with you on how to handle the situation. You advise Administration and let them handle the situation.
You certainly don't share it with 20 or so of your so called 'friends'. Happy I am not on the friend list of his.
-VR
Originally posted by josephwYou are correct. But I think robbie was just being a clown spouting buzz words and catchphrases, Very Rusty was being led around by the nose like a gormless donkey, and chaney3 is just an inarticulate abusive guy who likes calling people "pussies" and homosexuals when he's drunk. There hasn't been a genuine debate going on here, your erudite interventions notwithstanding. 😛
"Confidentiality" is forgone when the nature of a "private message" becomes "threatening and abusive".
That anyone should be held accountable for revealing the nature of a threatening and abusive "private message" is unsustainable by any objective and rational argument.
If one sends a threatening and abusive PM they should expect such a message can an ...[text shortened]... ceiving abuse to expose the one sending verbal abuse given the warning not to send abusive PM's.
Originally posted by Very Rusty"Instigating" what?
FMF,
Here is the truth of the matter, you try and push peoples buttons until they explode on you, then go crying poor me, I am getting threats in P.M. messages. Look how nasty the person is, when in fact you caused it all to start with.
You may have found yourself getting a forum ban, back in the old days you both may have gotten one, yours probably longer for instigating.
-VR
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Originally posted by FMFFMF,
This would probably have resulted in a forum ban for Suzianne and her ridiculous behaviour being hushed up. These are bad outcomes.
Highly unlikely because you were both going back and forth at each other...with you pushing her buttons at every chance you got.
You should try that with me and see how far it gets you. 😛
-VR
Originally posted by Very RustyWhat on earth are you on about? I have not sent her a single message in the whole ten years I have been here. Back and forth? You haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. I have only ever interacted with Suzianne in public and if there was something you wanted to alert you should have alerted it. I have never alerted any of her posts.
FMF,
Highly unlikely because you were both going back and forth at each other...with you pushing her buttong at every chance you got.
-VR