Originally posted by StarrmanEtruscan society was organised slightly differently to ours--women were free to select sexual partners outside of marriage (exogamy), any offspring being raised by the woman and her husband. (Think of that woman who has the Big Lebowski impregnate her and her reasons for doing so 🙂 )
I'm not sure what Etruscan means, could you elaborate?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageAnd what were Etruscan men free to do? I'd like to understand the society better before I comment on what i think of such a setup.
Etruscan society was organised slightly differently to ours--women were free to select sexual partners outside of marriage (exogamy), any offspring being raised by the woman and her husband. (Think of that woman who has the Big Lebowski impregnate her and her reasons for doing so 🙂 )
Originally posted by angie88Their society pre-existed both the romantic and Christian concepts of love, so I guess your guess is as good as mine. I'd guess yes.
sounds interesting. I'm guessing that perhaps their conception of "love" wasn't as closely related to sex as our society's is?
Swingers claim that lovers needn't be exclusive about sex. I must say I'd rather attend an Etruscan ritual than a suburban swinging session, but that's just me.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NagePersonally I would see a society where sexual preferences were all equally accepted as a healthy one. But, we're talking about a a society that is no longer bound by the pressures of evolution to pass on genes in any specific way. In this, I think the Etruscans were fairly unique and I'm not sure about the long terms sustainability of such a society.
The men were also free to participate in exogamic rites. Very swinging ancients, the Etruscans.
There is also now the question of what is and isn't acceptable as a sexual preference. In my short google search for Etruscans, I found that supposedly they frequently practiced paedophilia, a practice which is illegal today and morally distasteful to the vast majority of the population. Without getting into too serious discussions about the rights and wrongs of certain acts in reference to their cultures, I am going to cop out for now on this particular issue. I'm not prepared to comment on whether a society that deters paedophilia is right to do so based on the specific parameters of that society, or on some universal all pertaining sense of wrong.
EDIT: I guess I'm saying that I haven't looked into this subject enough to be able to comment one way or another.
Originally posted by StarrmanYou walked that tightrope quite neatly!!
Personally I would see a society where sexual preferences were all equally accepted as a healthy one. But, we're talking about a a society that is no longer bound by the pressures of evolution to pass on genes in any specific way. In this, I think the Etruscans were fairly unique and I'm not sure about the long terms sustainability of such a society.
...[text shortened]... saying that I haven't looked into this subject enough to be able to comment one way or another.
Originally posted by angie88I think you'll find there's a bit of the clown in all pirates. Jack Sparrow for example... 😉
... and I thought you were a pirate in disguise (http://www.dogstarr.org.uk/rhpfaces/gallery/gal3.htm). Silly me 😛
Edit: But a sexy pirate, I'll give you that 😀
Originally posted by StarrmanI'm neither sexually repressed or close minded. I enjoy sex and am very confident in and with my sexuality. I think porn is a ridiculous statement of mans inteligence. I have watched porn, had sex to porn and even owned porn in my lifetime. This does not mean that at this point in my life I feel it's absolute filth for the true sexually repressed. If a person is sexually free and confident in their own life then it would eliminate the need for such outlets.
Originally posted by mokko
[b]People who like, need, enjoy porn are seriously lacking in respect for intimacy.
What utter drivel. Firstly, intimacy does not require respect, your partner requires respect. Secondly if you respect your partner then porn can be a healthy addition to a sexual relationship. Your moral objections to porn only disc ...[text shortened]... ions that are bad, worse. Proper controls and changes in attitude can see the industry improve.[/b]
To say thet Jenna Jameson is an example of a rich, successful and empowered women is a joke. She is a product of exploitation pure and simple. If females made that kind of money being teachers and care givers then gauranteed there would be no porn industry.
Saying that porn is a necessity to life is just silly. Life went on long before the technology to produce porn was ever around. Man was not a rabid insane beast before the time of porn. I just simply feel that as the dominating species on the planet you'd think we would put more time, energy and resources into greater achievements than porn. It's an embarresment to mans intelligence and ability.
Originally posted by mokkoI haven't actually seen a 'porn' film/video/whatever for some years however your message compelled me to type as it's so arrogant! Who are you to set the standards and judge other people? So peddling porn is worse than selling heroin or smack to children or explosives to terrorists? But there is an arguement against your moralistic stance without introducing drugs or terrorism. It is you that needs to get a life, I'm not suggesting that you need to watch porn I am stating that you should look at yourself and ask who are you to judge others, the world would be a very boring place if one person's preferences dictated what was acceptable for everyone to indulge in.
People who like, need, enjoy porn are seriously lacking in respect for intimacy. It's filth for filth. Get a life and quit contributing to the worlds most pathetic indusrty that caters only to the ripping apart of female power and authority.