Should database use on RHP be stopped?

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
In a way it does. Why should those who have learnt and studied openings play against someone who just follows a database's instructions? Not really fair is it?

Because they want a good game against someone with less time then them?

Originally posted by Will Everitt
Because they want a good game against someone with less time then them?

?????

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
In a way it does. Why should those who have learnt and studied openings play against someone who just follows a database's instructions? Not really fair is it?

Then quit this site and find a CC site that doesn't allow the use of databases if you think it's sooooooooooo "unfair". Hint: so far as I know, there is no CC site that doesn't allow databases.

I think it is equally "unfair" that some people here who have never read chess books or studied at all should have to play those who learned from such places to control the center, increase their pieces' mobility, etc. etc. To meet your criteria of "fairness", no player should ever have been exposed to any chess knowledge possessed by anyone else.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Then quit this site and find a CC site that doesn't allow the use of databases if you think it's sooooooooooo "unfair". Hint: so far as I know, there is no CC site that doesn't allow databases.

I am certain without a shadow of a doubt that a man of your intelligence understands my point.... databases are there as an anyalitical tool and opening 'database' to learn from not use whilst playing 😉

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
I am certain without a shadow of a doubt that a man of your intelligence understands my point.... databases are there as an anyalitical tool and opening 'database' to learn from not use whilst playing 😉

CC is there for players who want to use analytic tools during their games to improve their quality of play. If you object to this, you should play on a timed site like FICS.

Originally posted by no1marauder
CC is there for players who want to use analytic tools during their games to improve their quality of play. If you object to this, you should play on a timed site like FICS.

But I like it here and I like you, can we be friends?


P.S I'm guessing you use one

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
But I like it here and I like you, can we be friends?


P.S I'm guessing you use one

Question 1: No

Sure I do and it's improved my opening repertoire greatly. I also read chess books on openings as well. I even move the pieces around on sideboards when I'm analyzing my CC games. The horror.

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
What REALLY bugs me more is not the use of them, but the secretive use of them. [ie. pretence that they are not being used]

So you have asked players whether they use a database, they have denied it, but you have a lot of evidence that they do? I may be wrong, but I would expect that most players wouldn't lie about it if you ask them, since they aren't doing anything wrong. I use databases, and I certainly don't have a problem "admitting" it.

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
But if database users ever play an OTB game they're stuck!

Or maybe using a database will have helped them learning openings. It all depends on how you use them.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Question 1: No

Sure I do and it's improved my opening repertoire greatly. I also read chess books on openings as well. I even move the pieces around on sideboards when I'm analyzing my CC games. The horror.

methinks you protest too much
Your refutations unveil your guilt
I need to speak to someone more objective
Please leave this thread
I thankyou

Originally posted by Nordlys
So you have asked players whether they use a database, they have denied it, but you have a lot of evidence that they do? I may be wrong, but I would expect that most players wouldn't lie about it if you ask them, since they aren't doing anything wrong. I use databases, and I certainly don't have a problem "admitting" it.

He wants people to have some kind of label or explicitly state it in their profile. It's really not anybody else's business what a player does to enjoy his use of the site if he is playing by the rules.

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
methinks you protest too much
Your refutations unveil your guilt
I need to speak to someone more objective
Please leave this thread
I thankyou

Guilt of what exactly?

Originally posted by Nordlys
So you have asked players whether they use a database, they have denied it, but you have a lot of evidence that they do? I may be wrong, but I would expect that most players wouldn't lie about it if you ask them, since they aren't doing anything wrong. I use databases, and I certainly don't have a problem "admitting" it.

I'll uncode that sentence
I've got a 1980 rating from using a databaase and you're making me feel like i'm cheating even more than I already do.... so I'll defend database use not to convince you but to convince myself

Originally posted by Vladamir no1
I'll uncode that sentence
I've got a 1980 rating from using a databaase and you're making me feel like i'm cheating even more than I already do.... so I'll defend database use not to convince you but to convince myself

Your psychology sucks worse than your chess.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Your psychology sucks worse than your chess.

And no one lies as much as the man who is indignant....