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Originally posted by AThousandYoungOnly to someone who is already convinced of the truth of that assertion. To anyone else, it's just an accident of the way the map is drawn.
The map with Britannia written on it in southern Great Britain, with the Britons shown right next to it being pushed out of Britain, supports what I am saying. Southern Great Britain is Britain.
I have a map on which the word "Europe" stretches from the Alps to the Urals. Does that mean that Spain and Greece aren't part of Europe?
I also have a map on which the words "Atlantic Ocean" stretch from the Azores southward. Does that place Great Britain inside the Arctic?
And then there's this map on which "ANDES" runs from Lima to Santiago de Chile. Does that mean that Quito is in another mountain range altogether? (Odd, I have this other map on which the CORDILLERAS DE LOS ANDES run through Ecuador and Peru. Aconcagua must be the highest mountain in the Rockies...)
Any sane man would answer "no" to all of the above, and give the same answer to your supposition, and that for the same reason: that the spot on a map where a name happened to fit nicely and legibly is not necessarily the entire extent of that name's applicability.
Richard
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Originally posted by Shallow BlueI didn't bring up that map and the name on it, someone else did. I was arguing based on the map with the picture on it that shows that the Britons didn't come from Scotland (except the southern extremes of that country) or Ireland. They came from Britain just as Jews come from Judea, Arabs from Arabia, Scots from Scotland, Irish from Ireland, Germans from Germany, English from Angeln, Chinese from China, etc.
Only to someone who is already convinced of the truth of that assertion. To anyone else, it's just an accident of the way the map is drawn.
I have a map on which the word "Europe" stretches from the Alps to the Urals. Does that mean that Spain and Greece aren't part of Europe?
I also have a map on which the words "Atlantic Ocean" stretch from the Az egibly is not necessarily the entire extent of that name's applicability.
Richard
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAngles, Jutes, Saxons are essentially German, as is the queen of England, Elizabeth von Brondelsteiger
I didn't bring up that map and the name on it, someone else did. I was arguing based on the map with the picture on it that shows that the Britons didn't come from Scotland (except the southern extremes of that country) or Ireland. They came from Britain just as Jews come from Judea, Arabs from Arabia, Scots from Scotland, Irish from Ireland, Germans from Germany, English from Angeln, Chinese from China, etc.
Originally posted by trev33But just because it is official doesn't make it agreed upon or in common usage. The currency is officially called Pound Sterling, but no-one refers to it that way. It doesn't make any sense that the island of Great Britain in the short form (Britain)
no. it's offical... just because people don't refer to it doesn't make it false. people on the island of great britain are generally ignorant to n.i anyway so i'm not surprised in the slightest...
it's pretty simple really... you call your passport 'brittish' right? what does it say on the front?
should include parts of the territory that are not on that island. Why would we have the official "United Kingdom" in that case? What is the point of the term United Kingdom if it can be completely subsumed by "Britain"? And just because you have a chip on your shoulder doesn't mean that people on Great Britain are ignorant to Northern Ireland. Large generalisations never help.
Please forgive the ignorance, but the cover of the passport says "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Doesn't that imply (officially) that Northern Ireland is NOT Great Britain (or, in the unofficial, not "Britain"😉.
P.S., I don't call my passport "Brittish".
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Originally posted by kyngj'birtain' is not the short form of 'great britain' there're two completely different unities.
But just because it is official doesn't make it agreed upon or in common usage. The currency is officially called Pound Sterling, but no-one refers to it that way. It doesn't make any sense that the island of Great Britain in the short form (Britain)
should include parts of the territory that are not on that island. Why would we have the official "United Kin ...[text shortened]... in the unofficial, not "Britain"😉.
P.S., I don't call my passport "Brittish".
But just because it is official doesn't make it agreed upon or in common usage.
this is one of the most idiotic sentences i've ever read, it doesn't matter if something is commonly used, if it's official it's official and has been agreed upon by those whose vote counts (if not by everyone).
i don't have a chip on my shoulder, i have various idiots in this thread who keep bugging me with their inaccuracies... almost all have realized their wrong doings and left the thread with their tails between their legs but there's this one special idiot who i can't seem to shake off regardless of how simply i explain things.
