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@shallow-blue saidOk, so what exactly do you think will happen?
Yup - April 1st at the last your bluff will be called.
@shallow-blue saidOk, so what exactly do you think will happen?
Yup - April 1st at the last your bluff will be called.
@ashiitaka saidWhen the UK exits the EU we will see a decline of extreme right vocalising; on the contrary in Europe where the countries continue to devolve democratic power to the EU federal state we will see the continued rise of the extreme right in all the major economic powers especially in Germany (who are already witnessing blatant Nazism despite punitive laws) and Italy.
I'm afraid the opposite is true. Europe's economy is in ruins. Youth unemployment is in the 30's in the south. European politics is rapidly polarizing. Every day that goes by, there is a risk that Italy will light a bomb under the Eurozone. Mr Druncker's so-called "tools of torture" won't work on Italy - they have a budget surplus, so it would be easy to float a parallel cu ...[text shortened]... I'll eat my hat if they pay any of it back.
But, you were saying how well it was going for you.
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I'm afraid the opposite is true. Europe's economy is in ruins.
@divegeester saidNo matter how disastrously the government negotiates, it all matters little. There will be no deal because there isn't any sort of a deal that will have enough support to get through parliament. Labour will vote any deal down because they want a general election. The SNP will vote it down to frustrate the government as that is their raison d'être. If she compromises too much, brexiteers within the Conservative party will vote it down. No deal is the only outcome of the negotiations that doesn't have to pass through the commons - it is automatic if we reach 29 March 2019 without any other deal having been ratified by parliament. That's what makes it by far the most likely outcome.
I have mixed feelings about the latest move by Mrs May to propose a brexit transition extension without her having a mandate from her cabinet.
@shallow-blue saidHaha. I don't feel the need to prove common knowledge to you, nor do I care what you think - this is just the way it is. If you don't want to recognize your beloved gravy train's flaws, it's not my vision for the world that will fail to materialize.
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And not from the Daily Mail or the side of a bus.
@ashiitaka saidI agree completely.
No matter how disastrously the government negotiates, it all matters little. There will be no deal because there isn't any sort of a deal that will have enough support to get through parliament. Labour will vote any deal down because they want a general election. The SNP will vote it down to frustrate the government as that is their raison d'être. If she compromises too muc ...[text shortened]... gdom for the foreseeable future.
The UK has everything to gain and nothing to fear from no deal.
@divegeester saidwhen its all over she might get a zombie part in the walking dead.
Worse, lizard robot.
@badradger saidShe'll probably resign as soon as the UK leaves the EU.
when its all over she might get a zombie part in the walking dead.
@ashiitaka saidAgreed again!
She'll probably resign as soon as the UK leaves the EU.
@divegeester saidIt will turn out for the best in the end.
I agree completely.
However I am sad for the deep divisions in our nation, dismayed by the selfish politicising by certain MPs and weary of the lies and propaganda.
@divegeester saidI actually think that she loathes the job. I mean, how could you not? While she hasn't handled the negotiations the way that I would have liked, I remind myself that I don't have the future of an entire nation for the next 50 years on my shoulders. Easier said than done.
Agreed again!