18 Aug 07
The other day my router generated alerts. Checking up the IP addy and googling for it, it turned out to be some clowns who hammer people's connections with bogus data to stop P2P. As my addy changes regularly it could have been the guy who had just had the IP who had been using P2p. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
18 Aug 07
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveI don't surf for dirty stuff on the web and only use P2P to download Linux as the ISOs are quite large. They should know that with dynamic addresses, the addy can change and so they are targeting innocent users rather like a forum using IP blocking- the culprits have hit the road.
Serves you right for downloading so much pr0n. 😉
They know!!!!
18 Aug 07
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Originally posted by z00tIt usually doesn't last very long. These pinheads have such short attention spans ("oooooh, a shiny!" ) that they're usually off doing something else within minutes.
I don't surf for dirty stuff on the web and only use P2P to download Linux as the ISOs are quite large. They should know that with dynamic addresses, the addy can change and so they are targeting innocent users rather like a forum using IP blocking- the culprits have hit the road.
19 Aug 07
See http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=797162 its happening to others too. They should realise that ISPs have many, many users but few dynamic addresses. As only a small percentage of users is actually engaging in illegal P2P then blasting a whole network is targeting innocent users.
20 Aug 07
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Originally posted by z00tErr...What??😳
The other day my router generated alerts. Checking up the IP addy and googling for it, it turned out to be some clowns who hammer people's connections with bogus data to stop P2P. As my addy changes regularly it could have been the guy who had just had the IP who had been using P2p. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
21 Aug 07
Originally posted by ZadadkaDid you bother to read what those guys on that forum in Australia experienced? The guys who own those IP ranges are the guys who drag you into court (In America) and produce screenshots of copyright material you are sharing on P2P.
It sounds more likely that some script-kiddie with a port-scanner was trying to brute-force your routers' Admin password.
Go to grc.com and read up on becoming "invisible".
Do you think the guys who have no technical difficulties producing evidence in court would let a script kiddie use their network?
21 Aug 07
Define hammering your router? Are you saying you saw a noticeable degradation of performance or was it just some alerts in your logs?
I've read the thread you linked to and the company's website. Looks like it's just monitoring of P2P traffic and not some attempt to knock you of the net (illegal) although as you say, what they find may be used in official channels to make you stop what your up to.
I'm not sure what your really getting at, are you saying it's not acceptable for companies to actively protect their copyrights in this manner? Are you annoyed as you feel your privacy has been in some way invaded? Please elaborate.
21 Aug 07
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Originally posted by CabaThe issue is that whatever [if anything] is being done to his status/connection/internet speed blah blah is because another previous user of the ISP-allocated address is probably the intended recipient of the "hammerers" attention.
Define hammering your router? Are you saying you saw a noticeable degradation of performance or was it just some alerts in your logs?
I've read the thread you linked to and the company's website. Looks like it's just monitoring of P2P traffic and not some attempt to knock you of the net (illegal) although as you say, what they find may be used in official ch r? Are you annoyed as you feel your privacy has been in some way invaded? Please elaborate.
Due to the fact that z00t has a dynamic address [which can change every time he restarts his computer] rather than a static one, they are getting at the wrong person.
21 Aug 07
Originally posted by z00tIn the US, ISP's use "datashaping" to try to control their customer's ability to transmit material outside of copyright restrictions - meaning they knock down speeds and whatnot for P2P connections.
I don't surf for dirty stuff on the web and only use P2P to download Linux as the ISOs are quite large. They should know that with dynamic addresses, the addy can change and so they are targeting innocent users rather like a forum using IP blocking- the culprits have hit the road.
In Europe, the law does not require an ISP to monitor traffic on their network, so most ISP's do not use datashaping. "Hence internet service providers are not liable for the data they transmit, even if it infringes copyright." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Copyright_Directive#Exceptions_and_limitations
The EUCD does not prohibit individual member states from making stricter rules.
As to the legality of DOS attacks - there are no laws on the internet really - very little is agreed universally if anything at all. The Americans and Australians seem to have a lax view as to what should or shouldn't be allowed - SORBS (the world's worst blacklist) is run out of Australia, and god help you if your IP ends up on one of their lists - they make you pay them $50.00ish (Australian I think) to get your address de-listed, which is nothing more than internet blackmail and hijacking. They run several lists, the worst is called a Dynamic Users List (sorbs call it a Dynamic User/Host List) which lists all IP ranges that are dynamically assigned, regardless of whether the IP in question has EVER been used for any untoward e-mail activity. This is obviously ridiculous since almost every ISP on Earth still only uses IPv4 and there are simply not enough IP addresses for everyone to have their own static address.
Also, the IP in that link you posted belongs to a company called PSI, based in Washington, DC in the US, not to "SafeNet/MediaSentry" as the poster seems to think. They are probably hired by a company that feels like their copyrights have been infringed. Report it to your ISP's abuse department, or even better - report it to the police in your area and they will investigate as though it was illegal hacking (supposedly; in Ireland you're likely to get no response from the gardai) and create an international incident.