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Who banned Stocken.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Maybe I just don't care, SJ. Maybe I don't take it seriously. Is that so wrong?
No. But maybe some people care. Is that so wrong?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
No. But maybe some people care. Is that so wrong?
Yes.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
No. But maybe some people care. Is that so wrong?
I suppose not. I guess it would be frustrating to have absolutely no idea why you were banned, but given Stocken's history of provocative posts then arguing that discussions like that are normal and inoffensive, I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt here.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
I agree. I find this kind of bans completely meaningless. It serves nobody when someone is banned without knowing why. It just makes people angry at the mods.

I haven't read anything by stocken lately which sounds bannable, but of course I may have missed it because it was most likely deleted.
i agree with nordlys and sj i cant see any reason for this ban

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Originally posted by bub
i agree with nordlys and sj i cant see any reason for this ban
Obviously you don't see it, it hasn't been explained yet!

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Why should people be told? So they can argue the toss over it? If they just tried harder to stick to the ToS, they'd be less likely to get banned. Telling them only gives them the reason they need to bitch about it, perhaps they should have tried harder not to get banned in the first place.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Why should people be told? So they can argue the toss over it? If they just tried harder to stick to the ToS, they'd be less likely to get banned. Telling them only gives them the reason they need to bitch about it, perhaps they should have tried harder not to get banned in the first place.
Then there are those who say, "Well, tell us EXACTLY what we can talk about and what is bannable" which results in more stringent moderation, more complaining from users and more unnecessary work for the mods.

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Originally posted by SJ247
So you're saying you find it a blessing to be banned for no reason
No, it's a blessing for Stocken to be banned for no reason.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Then there are those who say, "Well, tell us EXACTLY what we can talk about and what is bannable" which results in more stringent moderation, more complaining from users and more unnecessary work for the mods.
Which is why I say, if you can't work it out yourself, either tread on the side of caution, or don't be a bitching little brat when it happens to you.

EDIT: I do the first, you do the second 🙂

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Originally posted by darvlay
I suppose not. I guess it would be frustrating to have absolutely no idea why you were banned, but given Stocken's history of provocative posts then arguing that discussions like that are normal and inoffensive, I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt here.
I see this as two separate issues. If he doesn't know why he's banned, he should get an explanation (better even, the post should get deleted and he should get an explanation for that, and only if he'd repeat the same thing, he should get a ban). If he doesn't like that explanation and thinks that the reason why he was banned should not be a reason for a ban, that's a different issue. Obviously people will always disagree about what should be moderated and what shouldn't, and it's the site owners and moderators who decide, if we like it or not. As long as I know their rules, I don't have much of a problem with that (although it can sometimes be really annoying, when you can't discuss something you would like to discuss).

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Originally posted by SJ247
Seems like a good way to push people out of forums completely
Well in Stocken's case that is probably what they were trying to do.

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This thread should have been closed after the original post, as it is none of any of our business. It is between the mod and the banned player. It should not become public debate. All that can become of a thread of this type is a bunch of opinionated post that in the end will not resolve anything.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Why should people be told? So they can argue the toss over it?
They usually argue a lot more when they are not told. And trying hard to stick to the ToS doesn't always prevent you from getting banned, as I know from experience.

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Originally posted by I14U2NV
This thread should have been closed after the original post, as it is none of any of our business. It is between the mod and the banned player. It should not become public debate. All that can become of a thread of this type is a bunch of opinionated post that in the end will not resolve anything.
We're not allowed to have opinions anymore?

Are you a Baptist?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
They usually argue a lot more when they are not told. And trying hard to stick to the ToS doesn't always prevent you from getting banned, as I know from experience.
And why were you banned last time?