Originally posted by Freddie2006Don't you think this is a waste of resources? Bullets for a .223 rifle cost $0.11 per round even purchased in bulk. That's almost $5million just in bullets and some of them may need a couple of rounds to put down. Even lining them up to try to hit more than one with a bullet would still cost a fortune.
I think that we could definatly get rid of more than 100 of them /day. All we would have to do would be to dig giant holes in the deserts around the world and shoot the mentally handicapped and ones who can still walk, and just for a laugh we could roll the wheelchair users into the pit; just for a bit of extra humiliation. I say we do it quick and do it now.
Just digging holes would cost a phenomenal amount, though you could use existin open pit mines and fill them up. I'm thinking that you could use the multched bodies as fuel for power generation. We need to get the maximum amount out of this renewable resource.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateBut we'd still need to kill them somehow...how much does rope cost nowadays?
Don't you think this is a waste of resources? Bullets for a .223 rifle cost $0.11 per round even purchased in bulk. That's almost $5million just in bullets and some of them may need a couple of rounds to put down. Even lining them up to try to hit more than one with a bullet would still cost a fortune.
Just digging holes would cost a phenomenal ...[text shortened]... fuel for power generation. We need to get the maximum amount out of this renewable resource.
Converting their carcusses into fuel could cost huge amounts of money...how do you plan to avoid these potential costs?
I find it all very disturbing.
Very odd today at work. I had a roofer who by his accent was not a native of this country (America) come off the roof and was yelling at me and the sup. on the job. He was very agitated and of course angry. Angry about what we still don't know. We just stood there drinking our coffee and smoking our smokes ignoring him.
Go figure??
RTh
Originally posted by RingtailhunterWell; sounds like another cripple that needs to be disposed of to me.
I find it all very disturbing.
Very odd today at work. I had a roofer who by his accent was not a native of this country (America) come off the roof and was yelling at me and the sup. on the job. He was very agitated and of course angry. Angry about what we still don't know. We just stood there drinking our coffee and smoking our smokes ignoring him.
Go figure??
RTh
Originally posted by Freddie2006On the contrary, we would use existing municipal solid waste power plant technology to dispose of the handicapped. I feel that most of them would have perished during shipment in air tight containers to the power generation facility. The remaining few could be could be finished with astarter pistol to the temple or a lethal current zapped through the frontal lobe.
But we'd still need to kill them somehow...how much does rope cost nowadays?
Converting their carcusses into fuel could cost huge amounts of money...how do you plan to avoid these potential costs?
Handicapped Waste (HW) can be directly combusted in waste-to-energy facilities as a fuel with minimal processing, known as mass burn; it can undergo moderate to extensive processing before being directly combusted as refuse-derived fuel; or it can be gasified using pyrolysis or thermal gasification techniques.
Each of these technologies can produce electricity as well as an alternative to landfilling or composting the HW. In contrast with many other energy technologies that require fuel to be purchased, HW facilities wil be government subsidized to take the fuel. The subsidized fee will be roughly equivalent to the fee charged to dispose of garbage at a landfill.
Mass Burn
Incoming trucks deposit the HW into pits, where cranes then mix the refuse and remove any bulky or large non-combustible items that may have contaminated the HW. The HW storage area can be maintained under lower than atmospheric pressure in order to prevent odors from escaping. The cranes move the HW to the combustor charging hopper to feed the boiler.
Heat from the combustion process is used to turn water into steam, with the steam then routed to a steam turbine-generator for power generation. The steam is then condensed via traditional methods (such as wet cooling towers or once-through cooling) and routed back to the boiler. Residues produced include bottom ash (which falls to the bottom of the combustion chamber), fly ash (which exits the combustion chamber with the flue gas [hot combustion products]), and residue (including fly ash) from the flue gas cleaning system.
The combined ash and air pollution control residue typically ranges from 20 percent to 25 percent by weight of the incoming HW processed. The ash can be mixed with soils for use as land-fill cover, or can be sold (or given away) for such beneficial uses as pavement aggregate or for cinder block production.
HW-Derived Fuel
HW-derived fuel (HWDF) typically consists of pelletized or "fluff" HW that is the by-product of a resource recovery operation where the HW is multched with other solid waste streams. Both the HWDF processing facility and the HWDF combustion facility are usually located near each other, if not on the same site.
Pyrolysis/Thermal Gasification
Pyrolysis and thermal gasification are related technologies. Pyrolysis heats organic material to high temperatures in the absence of gases such as air or oxygen. The process produces a mixture of combustible gases (primarily methane, complex hydrocarbons, hydrogen and carbon monoxide), liquids and solid residues. Thermal gasification of HWs different from pyrolysis in that the thermal decomposition takes place in the presence of a limited amount of oxygen or air.
The producer gas which is generated in either process can then be used in boilers or cleaned up and used in combustion turbine/generators. The primary area of research for this technology is the scrubbing of the producer gas of tars and particulates at high temperatures in order to protect combustion equipment downstream of the gasifier and still maintain high thermal efficiency.
I would recommend exploring the Pyrolysis/Thermal Gasification technology as the most promising means of efficiently generating power from HW. We need to focus on maximizing the profit recovered from this process.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateI can dig that...Where would the costs required for transportation come from though?
On the contrary, we would use existing municipal solid waste power plant technology to dispose of the handicapped. I feel that most of them would have perished during shipment in air tight containers to the power generation facility. The remaining few could be could be finished with astarter pistol to the temple or a lethal current zapped through th ...[text shortened]... erating power from HW. We need to focus on maximizing the profit recovered from this process.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateA very clean and easy alternative exists that may be much more cost effective.
I would recommend exploring the Pyrolysis/Thermal Gasification technology as the most promising means of efficiently generating power from HW. We need to focus on maximizing the profit recovered from this process.
Why not burn the handicapped in cement production?
Cement kilns burn very hot (so hot that almost all harmful gasses are burned up inside) and can use any waste materials that are flammable, eg. handicapped people.
http://www.temarry.com/Cement%20Kilns/Cement_Kiln2.htm
Originally posted by Freddie2006I think this should be borne by the families of the handicapped as they will doubtless be relieved to be free of the burden. Really, a $50.00 handling fee should more than cover the costs, however, we can develop a financial operations model fairly easily. Minimum holding facilities will be maintained with a 'just in time' inventory approach. This model will have the handicapped families (HF's) shoulder the responsibility of feeding, housing, etc... until incineration can be scheduled. At this point, temporary Area Collection Points (ACP's) will be established to facilitate processing of the handicapped. The handicapped will be packed into Airtight Steel Dry Van Containers for transport to the power stations.
I can dig that...Where would the costs required for transportation come from though?
Originally posted by CrowleyI see the potential for synergy and that is certainly an option. If nothing else, the waste can be used for filler. However, with the high calcium content you may be able to convert the slag into a decent cement. You'd need to add some some additional limestone and gypsum, but, it has potential. I'll start a feasability study immediately.
A very clean and easy alternative exists that may be much more cost effective.
Why not burn the handicapped in cement production?
Cement kilns burn very hot (so hot that almost all harmful gasses are burned up inside) and can use any waste materials that are flammable, eg. handicapped people.
http://www.temarry.com/Cement%20Kilns/Cement_Kiln2.htm