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    03 Dec '15 02:47
    Originally posted by Landisqueen170
    My remark about being shoulder-to shoulder with his nation was simply to point out that if America is so misguided, so self-absorbed and so hypocritical, then he ought to explain why his country routinely stands with us.
    Why do you think he has to explain it? He opposes it. It's like you demanding that he explains why you agree with US policy.
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    03 Dec '15 02:50
    Originally posted by Landisqueen170
    I called them simplistic because there is no legitimate way to reduce down the complexities of some of these multifaceted situations in a few mere sentences.
    If you are against being simplistic and reducing down the complexities of multifaceted situations, why are you yourself saying reductio ad absurdum things like: "So we should all bury our heads in the sand and hope these evil people just leave us alone?"
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    03 Dec '15 02:51
    Originally posted by FMF
    But robbie does. He does blame and criticize his own country. That's my point. He has done for years. You saying, over and over again, things like "he should equally blame and criticize his own country" is more of a deflection than a rebuttal of what he's said, because ~ as you well know, now ~ he does "blame and criticize his own country".
    How would I "well know, now?" lol Oh, because you just enlightened me? Thanks 😛
    I have had little if any interaction with him. I was only responding to a post or two that he made here, today.
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    03 Dec '15 02:57
    Originally posted by Landisqueen170
    How would I "well know, now?" lol Oh, because you just enlightened me? Thanks 😛
    Well I have told you. Repeatedly. Why press on with the same "point" about robbie having to criticize his own country's military ventures when you have had it pointed out to you already that he does criticize it and has always been entirely consistent in this matter?
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    03 Dec '15 02:57
    Originally posted by FMF
    If you are against being simplistic and reducing down the complexities of multifaceted situations, why are you yourself saying reductio ad absurdum things like: "So we should all bury our heads in the sand and hope these evil people just leave us alone?"
    Is this where I am supposed to feel like you really care about any of my thoughts on this topic?
    You are doing what you do all of the time.

    And ironically, robbie very much agreed with me on this point. 😉

    Where I'm from, when people are discussing, they say things like, "That's an interesting perspective you offer...I never thought of it in that light..." or "Well, I totally disagree and I'd like to tell you why. Perhaps you can then comment?" Things like that...

    You just go around in circles, trying to put me (and others) in a constant defensive mode. For what reason...no clue. It is just what you do.
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    03 Dec '15 02:59
    Originally posted by Landisqueen170
    Is this where I am supposed to feel like you really care about any of my thoughts on this topic?
    I'm in a discussion with you.
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    03 Dec '15 03:00
    Originally posted by FMF
    Well I have told you. Repeatedly. Why press on with the same "point" about robbie having to criticize his own country's military ventures when you have had it pointed out to you already that he does criticize it and has always been entirely consistent in this matter?
    I don't go by what other posters tell me.

    And he didn't do it today, in this thread.
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    03 Dec '15 03:01
    Originally posted by FMF
    I'm in a discussion with you.
    Oh, you get to decide that, do you?
    lol
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    03 Dec '15 03:02
    Originally posted by Landisqueen170
    Where I'm from, when people are discussing, they say things like, "That's an interesting perspective you offer...I never thought of it in that light..." or "Well, I totally disagree and I'd like to tell you why. Perhaps you can then comment?" Things like that...
    Why do you keep saying robbie has got to criticize his own nation if he is going to oppose military action? Why do you keep saying robbie has to explain why the UK engages in military action? Are these examples of how people discuss things where you are from?
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    03 Dec '15 03:04
    FMF : I'm in a discussion with you.

    Originally posted by Landisqueen170
    Oh, you get to decide that, do you?
    lol
    You've addressed 7-8 posts to me on this topic. That is surely "a discussion", no?
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    03 Dec '15 03:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    You've addressed 7-8 posts to me on this topic. That is surely "a discussion", no?
    I wonder how many of the "participants" are discussing a solution?
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    03 Dec '15 03:16
    Originally posted by FMF
    Why do you keep saying robbie has got to criticize his own nation if he is going to oppose military action? Why do you keep saying robbie has to explain why the UK engages in military action? Are these examples of how people discuss things where you are from?
    Do you actually read what I am writing? I cannot explain why I have said what I have any better than I already have. lol 🙄 But I will give it one more go, just for you....

    I did not say that robbie needs to criticize his own nation in order to oppose military action. What I did say (in reference to a specific post in which he blamed America for many things) that perhaps he ought to throw his own country under the bus too, because it has been with us a good majority of the time.
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    03 Dec '15 03:17
    Originally posted by Great Big Stees
    I wonder how many of the "participants" are discussing a solution?
    The discussion, such as it is, would be improved if it were not strewn with informal fallacies and deflections. 😉
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    03 Dec '15 03:18
    Originally posted by FMF
    The discussion, such as it is, would be improved if it were not strewn with informal fallacies and deflections. 😉
    Yes, so true. So will you please stop already? 😉
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    03 Dec '15 03:19
    Originally posted by FMF
    The discussion, such as it is, would be improved if it were not strewn with informal fallacies and deflections. 😉
    Sorry, I meant the bombers and the bombees.
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