1. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    16 Nov '06 17:03
    The Grob is a highly tactical game that commences with 1. g4.
    It has been played by Basman, Hebden and even Tony Miles on occasion.

    There has been lots of debate here about it being awful but is it really so bad for white. I played it 12 times W11 D1 L0 so it must have something going for it.

    Lets have a tournament and find out.
  2. Standard memberHomerJSimpson
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    16 Nov '06 19:33
    We should also have an h4 tournament 'whilst' we're at it
  3. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    16 Nov '06 20:541 edit
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    We should also have an h4 tournament 'whilst' we're at it
    Here is a game where white plays 1. h4 and 2 a4 Game 2764273

    Edit: seriously 1.h4 is not a proper opening but the Grob is.
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    17 Nov '06 00:23
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Here is a game where white plays 1. h4 and 2 a4 Game 2764273

    Edit: seriously 1.h4 is not a proper opening but the Grob is.
    It's just as serious as bloody Alekhine's defense .. almost 😉
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    17 Nov '06 09:01
    Originally posted by idioms
    It's just as serious as bloody Alekhine's defense .. almost 😉
    I rarely face Alekhines but when I do it is always a lowly rated player and I usually push him off the board. I have never found a strong player who plays it.
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    18 Nov '06 16:06
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Here is a game where white plays 1. h4 and 2 a4 Game 2764273

    Edit: seriously 1.h4 is not a proper opening but the Grob is.
    Here's my one and only attempt at the Grob. I quite enjoyed the game.
    Game 1647656

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    24 Nov '06 18:591 edit
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    I rarely face Alekhines but when I do it is always a lowly rated player and I usually push him off the board. I have never found a strong player who plays it.
    "I have never found a strong player who plays it."

    Heard about Alekhine? 😏
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    24 Nov '06 20:35
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    [b]"I have never found a strong player who plays it."

    Heard about Alekhine? 😏[/b]
    I saw him use the Sokolsky/Orangutan once too. 😀
  9. Standard memberHomerJSimpson
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    02 Dec '06 14:33
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Here is a game where white plays 1. h4 and 2 a4 Game 2764273

    Edit: seriously 1.h4 is not a proper opening but the Grob is.
    that game is hilarious!
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    03 Dec '06 01:15
    Many good players use the Alekhine, its not a bad or unorthodox opening at all. For example GM Lev Alburt, three-time U.S. Champion, used the Alekhine almost exclusively.
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    03 Dec '06 01:59
    Originally posted by omg1337
    Many good players use the Alekhine, its not a bad or unorthodox opening at all. For example GM Lev Alburt, three-time U.S. Champion, used the Alekhine almost exclusively.
    Weyerstrass uses Alekhines defense Game 2223717
  12. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    03 Dec '06 21:58
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    that game is hilarious!
    I will let you into a secret.

    It is supposed to be..............😉
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    04 Dec '06 12:49
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    The Grob is a highly tactical game that commences with 1. g4.
    It has been played by Basman, Hebden and even Tony Miles on occasion.

    There has been lots of debate here about it being awful but is it really so bad for white. I played it 12 times W11 D1 L0 so it must have something going for it.

    Lets have a tournament and find out.
    I'll let you in on a secret...

    in order to get the french thematic tournament, I used the "send feedback" link at the bottom of every screen.

    That said, while I love thematics and would probably play in a grob thematic, there are many other openings I would rather try out than that. Perhaps the Petrov?
  14. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    04 Dec '06 16:04
    Originally posted by zebano
    I'll let you in on a secret...

    in order to get the french thematic tournament, I used the "send feedback" link at the bottom of every screen.

    That said, while I love thematics and would probably play in a grob thematic, there are many other openings I would rather try out than that. Perhaps the Petrov?
    There are loads of other "sound" openings but the Grob is fun!
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    04 Dec '06 16:11
    Not long after I'd joined a chess club I was playing a few friendly games with a slightly higher rated player. In one game he opened 1.g4 grinning smugly and said, "You don't know what that is, do you?". I shrugged my shoulders, said "No, but it looks crap.", and beat him emphatically inside 20 moves.
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