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Originally posted by tmetzlerAgreed. It can lead to complete disaster, but it's never boring.
Why not give the Dutch a try?
Originally posted by SquelchbelchWhite is so much better in this diagram, why would you want to head for this position?
Treat 1.d4 with the utter contempt it deserves. They want a plodding, strategic game, then fine!
[fen]r2q1rk1/pbpnnpbp/1p1pp1p1/8/2BPPB2/2N2N2/PPPQ1PPP/R3R1K1 w - - 0 10[/fen]
Originally posted by YUG0slavphhhht you thinkthe KID is oncompromising, then you should see the dutch leningrad. Current theory says that this opening (Dutch Leningrad) is for the most part the KID with +1 tempo. Besides, doesnt pushing f pawns give you King Gambit players some sick, twisted joy inside anyways (I by the way fear pushing f pawns in any e4 game, but I for some reason feel perfectly safe with it in this one). Give it a shot, if you don't like it, try the Classical dutch or Stonewall.
booo! KID all the way!!!!! My logic is that it's an uncompromising opening and you ARE a dragon player, so you clearly don't want to draw.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!You guys are confusing the hell out of me, I was happy going back to the Benko but now I'm a bit tempted to take another look at the KID. Although it's not like I couldn't use both, Benko's not too difficult and there's not too much theory, although a couple of lines like the 4.cxb5 a6 5.Nc3 axb5 6.e4 b4 7.Nb5 d6 8.Bc4 (Stupid so called "Nescafe Frappe Attack"😉 are apparently quite sharp.
Agreed. I love the Dragon, and I am a KID player. 😀
Originally posted by !~TONY~!KID is my favorite, but I'm having problem OTB against the samisch, so against very strong players I decided to play grunfeld. the cool thing about the KID is you can do either c5 or e5, going on either side!
Agreed. I love the Dragon, and I am a KID player. 😀
Originally posted by rotkjoe gallagher suggests a line where you gambit the c pawn vs the samisch
KID is my favorite, but I'm having problem OTB against the samisch, so against very strong players I decided to play grunfeld. the cool thing about the KID is you can do either c5 or e5, going on either side!
Originally posted by cmsMasterI hate memorizing openings, and I do ok with KID. I'm not in your class, but here are some successful KID games I've played:
You guys are confusing the hell out of me, I was happy going back to the Benko but now I'm a bit tempted to take another look at the KID. Although it's not like I couldn't use both, Benko's not too difficult and there's not too much theory, although a couple of lines like the 4.cxb5 a6 5.Nc3 axb5 6.e4 b4 7.Nb5 d6 8.Bc4 (Stupid so called "Nescafe Frappe At ...[text shortened]... in, but I don't think it's something that can be played without theoretical knowledge.
Originally posted by YUG0slavPlay 6)...c5 I used to play the KID though quite badly. Both times I played 6)...c5 against the samisch they played 7)d5. Both had ~300 points on me (USCF). I lost both games.
joe gallagher suggests a line where you gambit the c pawn vs the samisch
why is the KID uncompromising? Well the best example I can think of is in lines of the Classical variation where black launches his kingside pawns up the board (likely giving up a few to open some lines) and possibly sac a bishop on h3, all for the sake of mate. Of course if he fa ...[text shortened]... the endgame.
of course, there's always those dull ones who play the fianchetto variation...
Originally posted by rotkSack the c-pawn! The fianchetto variation isn't boring if Black doesn't want it to be. You can play the crazy lines with ..e5, exd4, ..a6 and ..b5! And just get nuts on him.
KID is my favorite, but I'm having problem OTB against the samisch, so against very strong players I decided to play grunfeld. the cool thing about the KID is you can do either c5 or e5, going on either side!