1. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    20 Jun '10 20:57
    What about Qe3+?
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    20 Jun '10 20:572 edits
    Originally posted by thaughbaer
    I like that. All the variations I see are winning for white, unless I'm overlooking something (again).

    Edit - Okay, I give up, my head's starting to hurt. You stronger guys continue on. 🙂
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    20 Jun '10 21:15
    hmm, I tried to check my solution with an engine, and it was not currect...by the way, my Fritz 10 cannot see more than draw in this position...
    hmm, are you sure it is forced win for white ?
  4. Standard memberMariska Angela
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    20 Jun '10 21:171 edit
    For cotio: Whole threads are getting removed just because people "don't accuse" I don't want this puzzle to get removed because of other people's witty stupidity, thanks.

    To thaughbaer: That's not a solution. That's one single move.

    For the others: Try some more.🙂
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    20 Jun '10 21:22
    Originally posted by Mariska Angela
    For cotio: Whole threads are getting removed just because people "don't accuse" I don't want this puzzle to get removed because of other people's witty stupidity, thanks.

    To thaughbaer: That's not a solution. That's one single move.

    For the others: Try some more.🙂
    see my previous post. are you sure your problem is correct ?
  6. Standard memberMariska Angela
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    20 Jun '10 21:242 edits
    Originally posted by vipiu
    see my previous post. are you sure your problem is correct ?
    Yes vipiu it is correct, engines can't see it.

    This is where thinking out of the box happens. Maybe if you solve it you can tell that you see tactics quicker than your engine, huh?😉
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    20 Jun '10 21:30
    Originally posted by Mariska Angela
    Yes vipiu it is correct, engines can't see it.
    Ooh, now THAT'S a challenge. I can't solve it, but I gotta have some engine around that can crack it. (Don't worry, I won't post an engine solution, it's not fair.)
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  9. Standard membersbacat
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    20 Jun '10 23:15
    Reveal Hidden Content
    Qc5+, ..Kg8, gxh7+, ..Kh8, Be7, ..no good move for black, Qg5, ..still no good move for black, Qg7++
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    Originally posted by Mad Rook
    Ooh, now THAT'S a challenge. I can't solve it, but I gotta have some engine around that can crack it. (Don't worry, I won't post an engine solution, it's not fair.)
    I remember the solution, having seen it previously. So I won't even put it as hidden. It is indeed a nice puzzle.

    Zappa Mexico 2 with null move disabled can solve this (though it took 33 mins on my PC). Also, problem solving engines such as Chest can solve it.
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    21 Jun '10 00:31
    Originally posted by sbacat
    [hidden]Qc5+, ..Kg8, gxh7+, ..Kh8, Be7, ..no good move for black, Qg5, ..still no good move for black, Qg7++[/hidden]
    After Be7, Black plays Nb6 with the idea of Nd7+ chasing away the White king from controlling g7
  12. Romania
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    21 Jun '10 00:35
    I don't see what is the purpose of posting an anti-engine problem. Maybe it's useful for those who are interested in steering their engines into positions which are not evaluated correctly by other engines (which is in fact the essence of correspondence chess).
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    21 Jun '10 00:38
    Originally posted by cotoi
    I don't see what is the purpose of posting an anti-engine problem.
    It's an interesting puzzle for humans, regardless of how difficult engines find it.
  14. Standard memberwormwood
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    21 Jun '10 01:36
    Originally posted by Varenka
    I remember the solution, having seen it previously. So I won't even put it as hidden. It is indeed a nice puzzle.
    yeah, wasn't it posted here something like a year ago...
  15. Standard memberMariska Angela
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    21 Jun '10 08:12
    Originally posted by cotoi
    I don't see what is the purpose of posting an anti-engine problem. Maybe it's useful for those who are interested in steering their engines into positions which are not evaluated correctly by other engines (which is in fact the essence of correspondence chess).
    Yes, heaven forbid you from appreciating a puzzle or try solve it without outside help... 😴
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