Originally posted by Dagger12Maybe you didn't read or didn't care or just didn't understand, but black can just sacrifice the knight for perpetual.
1.Qd5 Nb6 2.g6xh7 (its over) Nb6xQd5 3.h8# pawn queens to deliver checkmate. Not such a hard puzzle, but a good one. Thank You!
1. Qd5 hxg6
2. Qxa8 Qe6+
and what?
Black can draw easy with a perpetual or push for a win. You won't win it as white even without all the three pawns.
Not so easy?
Thank you!🙂
Originally posted by Dagger12Whoa, friend, you might want to be a little more careful before being so dismissive. If the game were that easy, we'd all be here for Red Hot Poker.
1.Qd5 Nb6 2.g6xh7 (its over) Nb6xQd5 3.h8# pawn queens to deliver checkmate. Not such a hard puzzle, but a good one. Thank You!
Originally posted by Paul LeggettThis must be one of the all time great puzzles. So much depth to have worked out in this forcing sequence. Does anyone know if this was an actual game, the history of this puzzle?
Whoa, friend, you might want to be a little more careful before being so dismissive. If the game were that easy, we'd all be here for Red Hot Poker.
Hi Sonhouse.
It is a good study a lovely piece of composition.
I cannot who recall who composed it nor if it has any history.
There are 1,000's of these studies out there. Some are wonderful works
of creativity. The composers has an idea in mind, builds up an impossible
looking position around it and off you go.
Your job is to spot all the defences and the stem idea.
This one by Platov I can break down for you.
Start with this. Black to play.
Black can catch the pawn with 1...Kf4.
However if we add a Black pawn. Black to play.
Then the white pawn cannot be stopped.
Also note if Black pushes the pawn (both can reach the 8th at the same time)
White will Queen with a check so the Black pawn stays on the 7th.
OK store that idea - look at this one. White to play and draw.
I'll play it out for you.
Two good ideas to work with and if they are merged making sure
the Black King is forced onto a square to receive the Queening
check as in the first example.
Then we have a good study.
White to play and win. by Platov.
BTW. it's no good going for a Black Knight on move 2. with a check.
(you thought of that right?)
The b-pawn Queens with ease or the Black Knight has to give itself up
to stop it. Then it's a standard B & N win (you can do that...yes?).
Well, it seems as if the original puzzle has been adequately solved, so I hope MA doesn't mind me hijacking her thread.
White to move and mate in three.
If you've seen it before, please give others a shot before posting the answer.
Edit-I have no doubt that you can find a box that will solve it, but that's not the point.
This is a good one Clandarkfire.
Now without giving anything away the main difference between a study
and a set mate problem (this is a set mate problem) is that the good
set mates NEVER have any checks just the final mate.
You can class that as a clue to first time solvers, but it does put you
on an even footing with the more experienced solvers who know right
away, do not look at any checks.
Now go and solve. It's only 3 moves......
Originally posted by greenpawn34Yeah, ONLY 3 moves, hehe. So my first version was a bust, back to the drawing board, so to speak🙂
This is a good one Clandarkfire.
Now without giving anything away the main difference between a study
and a set mate problem (this is a set mate problem) is that the good
set mates NEVER have any checks just the final mate.
You can class that as a clue to first time solvers, but it does put you
on an even footing with the more experienced solvers who know right
away, do not look at any checks.
Now go and solve. It's only 3 moves......
Originally posted by Mariska AngelaYou didn't ask for a solution... you asked for ideas and thread participation... but I do admit I hadn't followed Greenpawn's line right through to the end. Do I qualify ?
For cotio: Whole threads are getting removed just because people "don't accuse" I don't want this puzzle to get removed because of other people's witty stupidity, thanks.
To thaughbaer: That's not a solution. That's one single move.
For the others: Try some more.🙂
Mike
Originally posted by clandarkfireedit: whoops, just ignore me when I try and play chess right after waking up.
Well, it seems as if the original puzzle has been adequately solved, so I hope MA doesn't mind me hijacking her thread.
White to move and mate in three.
[fen]5B2/6P1/1p6/8/1N6/kP6/2K5/8[/fen]
If you've seen it before, please give others a shot before posting the answer.
Edit-I have no doubt that you can find a box that will solve it, but that's not the point.
Originally posted by clandarkfireUhoh.. we're not talking about an illegal move off the board are we ?
More ideas people...After all, there are really only a few moves each side can make as a response to any one move; the total possibilities for three moves really aren't that huge...Just as a tip, try thinking waaay outside the box. (Pun intended)
Mike
