Can i use books to aid play ?

Can i use books to aid play ?

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Originally posted by Korch
Your "point" in page 12 is absolute BS which consist of obviously absurd claims.
Wrong. Your comical explanations and ridiculous justifications are absolute BS. And it doesn't surprise me that you are afraid to address these issues, instead childishly just shouting them down.

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Originally posted by Korch
RHP is CC chess site.
Wrong. It is an error to define online chess solely as cc chess, and it is an error to assume that cc chess implies the use of databases and books.

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Originally posted by tamuzi
But you have not set me straight, all you do is continue to insult me. I don't want this thread to be a flamewar, thats why i tried to take it to PMs. You wanted nothing of it, you were completely unreceptive to anything and if it wasn't your way you wanted it dropped, I dropped the conversation.

Again, I don't want this thread to be a flamewar, all you're ...[text shortened]... I don't want there to be judgment over who is right or wrong, you should drop this, I have.
tamuzi wrote:
You make your argument "valid" by denigrating the ethos of everyone arguing against them by stating that they are "low rated people" and therefore what they say is pointless. You set a "High rated vs low rated standard and imply that lowraters don't have anything to say, hence why you didn't "bother to read the other pages". Get off your high horse and come play with us in the mud, its better here.



I did NONE of that, and I would never do that. I explained it right after your initial misunderstanding, but you just keep claiming you know better what I meant! in our private messages you even wanted me to prove that I actually thought exactly what I wrote, as if it wasn't enough to simply write it.


if you think I'm the kind of guy who gives up just because you keep repeating your lies, you're sadly mistaken. I will not let it go.

and for the record, the post before this one was the FIRST time I've insulted you. I think it's about time after you insulting me for days both in private and in public. -if you think me being blunt about it is insulting, well that's just too damn bad. I'm not responsible for your misunderstanding, nor in any way inclined to be polite to you after you piss on me.

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Originally posted by eldragonfly
Wrong. It is an error to define online chess solely as cc chess, ...
We agree on this much. Now, look back through this thread to see who has smeared the distinction between online correspondence play and other forms of online play.

I'll help with the research:

Originally posted by eldragonfly
... i still see no solid proof that the whole idea behind on-line chess gaming sites is to use books and databases.

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"end of story. move along. "

"Again, I don't want this thread to be a flamewar, all you're doing is attacking me and calling on the public. I don't want there to be judgment over who is right or wrong, you should drop this, I have."

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Originally posted by tamuzi
"end of story. move along. "

"Again, I don't want this thread to be a flamewar, all you're doing is attacking me and calling on the public. I don't want there to be judgment over who is right or wrong, you should drop this, I have."
you are wrong, there's no question about it. but as long as you stop repeating your lies about me...

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The post that was quoted here has been removed
forget it, you're not going to be able to weasel your way out of this.

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The post that was quoted here has been removed
you either take responsibility of your words, or you shut up, but posting empty messages in a childish attempt to 'have the last word' isn't going to make the slightest difference.

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Originally posted by eldragonfly
Wrong. Your comical explanations and ridiculous justifications are absolute BS. And it doesn't surprise me that you are afraid to address these issues, instead childishly just shouting them down.
Its comical and ridiculous only by some stupid minority of patzers. Face the fact patzer - you are miserable minority. And I really advice you to read some chess book.

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Originally posted by eldragonfly
Wrong. It is an error to define online chess solely as cc chess, and it is an error to assume that cc chess implies the use of databases and books.
Its obvious that you have zero knowledge about CC chess. To argue your baseless claims you may answer my previous question which you avoided:

Can you name at least one CC chess site (like RHP) where using of books and databases is forbidden? Can you name at least one CC federation which have forbidden using of books and databases?

Also I would like to ask you - why do you afraid to discuss with CC master?

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Even if the argument is, "Who cares if everyone allows book/DB use in CC chess - it's still unethical", that is easily dismissed. CC games can go on for years. Do we really expect CC players to ignore all the opening improvements found in their favorite opening lines? After all, they'd better avoid studying them, because they've got games going on with those openings at any given time.

This would lead to the absurd situation of those who start games later on having better theoretical knowledge, because they are able to read the later books and DBs before starting those games. No, the only fair way to do it is to allow all players to look at all books and DBs at any point in the game.

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Originally posted by eldragonfly
Wrong. Nor have any players, beyond the few confused individuals here, come out in support of using books and databases to help decide moves in a game. Your hollow and ridiculous justifications are plain silly and just don't wash.
Listen to me, Montag. Once to each fireman, at least once in his career, he just itches to know what these books are all about. He just aches to know. Isn't that so?

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Even if the argument is, "Who cares if everyone allows book/DB use in CC chess - it's still unethical", that is easily dismissed. CC games can go on for years. Do we really expect CC players to ignore all the opening improvements found in their favorite opening lines? After all, they'd better avoid studying them, because they've got games going on with t ...[text shortened]... way to do it is to allow all players to look at all books and DBs at any point in the game.
Bravo. Here SwissGambit highlights a key point of ethics succinctly and with impeccable logic. That his argument goes against nothing on the other side, for no one has advanced an ethical argument against database use, is irrelevant. It still helps to understand why databases should be permitted, as they indeed are.