Originally posted by smw6869I'm just a beginner, in exactly a month it'll be two years since I learned how the pieces move. but I take chess seriously, that's just the way I was built, and I know both rahim and cms take their chess very seriously as well. and I guarantee both of them have analysed every move on the current game to death, as well as dived deep into the dragon theory.
I understand from your postings that you are quite the chess scholar ( and this is a chess site) and you should want to do your best, but could it have gotton to a point of Fear Of Failing? That's OK too! I actually admire people like you who want to do the best they can at something! Keep reading.
Originally posted by Shinidokiwell, I can use over a week just analyzing relevant games and possible continuations in a book position. not every time, but if need be. and I'm taking a lot of shortcuts even there. the really good players do a lot more than that, and they never move quickly.
--Woodworm, I actaully agree that using book moves (in high level chess, at least) is not done idly or brainlessly -- but i do question the 'amount' of effort that top corr. players but into it compared to mid & end-games --
if you think about the top GMs OTB, they prepare for months, even a whole year for an important match. and they're not using that time to chase chickens or running stairs. there just is a huge amount of work you can do even before the first move. in CC the same is done during the game, and there's even less margin for errors.
practically all of my high rated opponents have used all the time available. -it's not a coincidence either, they don't just sleep more than lower rated players. they simply put more work on the positions. and that's what CC is about.
of course you can blitz your games, follow books & databases blindly if you like, but what's the point really? why wait a week to use a minute on a move?
woodworm is another guy btw...
Originally posted by wormwoodLets suppose weyerstrass has analyzed the KID -- every move intensly and at depth.
well, I can use over a week just analyzing relevant games and possible continuations in a book position. not every time, but if need be. and I'm taking a lot of shortcuts even there. the really good players do a lot more than that, and they never move quickly.
if you think about the top GMs OTB, they prepare for months, even a whole year for an im ...[text shortened]... nt really? why wait a week to use a minute on a move?
woodworm is another guy btw...
that would explain him moving slowly in one game -- but that doesn't really explain moving slow in every KID game from then on (while in book)....because he already has all his evalutions to look at from the prevoius game(s)
....weyerstrass must of played and fought 1.d4 millions of times by now, so why does he need a week to respond with nf6?
-- the only thing I can think of (other than the obvoius bad internet, etc) is that they made have analysed one anothers games to work out which opening 'choice' may give them the advantage. - but i somewhat dount they do this everygame, every openant.
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveI haven't moved in any games in a while, I have my reasons for doing so, and *not moving* is not abuse of anything.
Can someone explain to me how it's possible for anyone to be 'on vacation' in one game but not 'on vacation' in others?
Or is that what is known as vacation system abuse?
Originally posted by ShinidokiWhether or not they had to analyze that is sort of beside the point if the argument is about why someone needs to spend time on a move, perhaps there are more important things for them to worry about, no?
Lets suppose weyerstrass has analyzed the KID -- every move intensly and at depth.
that would explain him moving slowly in one game -- but that doesn't really explain moving slow in every KID game from then on (while in book)....because he already has all his evalutions to look at from the prevoius game(s)
....weyerstrass must of played and fought 1 ...[text shortened]... ' may give them the advantage. - but i somewhat dount they do this everygame, every openant.
Originally posted by hamltnblueVery easily. Look at many top players games - look at most of my games. They take a long time, it's correspondence chess.
How can that not be enough time to finish a game?
In regards to timeouts, he can take it, it's just one less game for me to worry about. If he were to timeout I wouldn't take it, because I can understand why he'd need more time.
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My only thought on the book thing is that Chess is supposed to be a game between 2 players, and not an open book test. What you know should be what you go to the game with. I know it's acceptable to use books etc because it's the nature of correspondence Chess but it just doesn't seem right to me. In OTB if someone pulled out a book of chess openings and started to refer to it all hell would break loose. The chess club I frequent is made up of mostly old timers that are retired. If anyone did that on Monday night when we meet they'd be shunned.
Originally posted by hamltnblueThat is because an otb chess game is played and finished within a few hours at most. Correspondence chess games can take months to finish, so if someone is playing a KID game, how can you not expect them to research the theory, check the book lines, etc. over the course of the game?
My only thought on the book thing is that Chess is supposed to be a game between 2 players, and not an open book test. What you know should be what you go to the game with. I know it's acceptable to use books etc because it's the nature of correspondence Chess but it just doesn't seem right to me. In OTB if someone pulled out a book of chess openings a ...[text shortened]... timers that are retired. If anyone did that on Monday night when we meet they'd be shunned.
Originally posted by Ramiri15Actually I expect it and decided to subscribe because it's definitely a challenge and good source to improve. But when you play someone using references you aren't playing them. You are playing the master whose games they are referring to.
That is because an otb chess game is played and finished within a few hours at most. Correspondence chess games can take months to finish, so if someone is playing a KID game, how can you not expect them to research the theory, check the book lines, etc. over the course of the game?
Originally posted by hamltnblue...then play a novelty at move five.
Actually I expect it and decided to subscribe because it's definitely a challenge and good source to improve. But when you play someone using references you aren't playing them. You are playing the master whose games they are referring to.