Let me tell you where John Nunn shows he is bias and wants as little transparency as possible (exactly the same Kramnik's team wants):
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The first extraordinary act was the handing over of the video of Kramnik in his rest room to Topalov’s team. This could easily be used against Kramnik, for example by seeing if he looked agitated after a particular move in the opening. This act was so obviously wrong that one can hardly imagine it being committed by an unbiased person..........
Then how in ther world Silvio Danailov can prove his suspicions were FOUNDED if they deny him the only means for that - the video records?
This is nothing but "obstruction of justice". Why have cameras in the first place then? Kramnik's team seems to like the idea of of having them so they can say "Yeah, we have all security measures taken care of including cameras every where."
Mow I see smart people trying to make the right wrong and wrong right. Like the smart lawyers do.
In London there are Video Cameras installed on numerous intersections. In US almost evey store has them installed on ceilings, corners etc..
Seems like Kramnik's only concern is not to do anything to insure the World Champion he is playing fair.
You see what the sponsors say:
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov “You are playing for the entire chess world”
...............Yesterday and today I keep receiving telephone calls from the representatives of those companies, which I attract for sponsoring of the chess competitions.
They are asking me: “How come, the two most intelligent chess players cannot share a toilet with each other? So no sense for us to interfere, with our millions….” ..............
Seems like not only I have asked that question.
I think the sponsors need to have access to all video records as well so they can see where their money goes.
Originally posted by Los AngelesSo the arbiters can view the tapes.
Why have cameras in the first place then?
In no competition in any sport or game is it fair to allow one team privileged information regarding another.
Certain "private" information, however, often must be available to the judges, referees, and arbiters.
Kramnik's team may, in time, be grateful to you, Los Angeles, for every statement you make in support of Topalov further weakens his case.
Originally posted by WulebgrLet me tell you again where you are wrong.
So the arbiters can view the tapes.
In no competition in any sport or game is it fair to allow one team privileged information regarding another.
Certain "private" information, however, often must be available to the judges, referees, and arbiters.
Kramnik's team may, in time, be grateful to you, Los Angeles, for every statement you make in support of Topalov further weakens his case.
Silvio Danailov asked that RECORDS BE AVAILABLE TO ALL ACCREDITED JOURNALISTS.
http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?t=17
Before posting can you please read a bit so that we don't repeat over and over again well known facts?
Originally posted by Los AngelesThank you Los Angeles, your ludicrous posts are virtually the only thing in all of this that have made me laugh.
Let me tell you again where you are wrong.
Silvio Danailov asked that RECORDS BE AVAILABLE TO ALL ACCREDITED JOURNALISTS.
http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?t=17
Before posting can you please read a bit so that we don't repeat over and over again well known facts?
Although I ought to advise you that if you want to do Topalov's popularity a tiny little favour, then STFU!
I am a fan of chess, so I am following this in a neutral way so to speak, I am not a fan of topaplov nor kramnik.
But as I can see, most people on this site are kramnik fans, and thus are defending his cause and suporting his actions, I respect that since I have done it and i know how it feels.
Looking at it in a neutral way since the begining, the first one to complain was Top, and the reason was, to my understanding, a valid one, since I would fell the same if my opponent does that in a tournament, and also having consideration that he is loosing, he is watching all details. Of course I think its a little exageration to threathen with abandoning the match because of this.
Kramnik reaction to my undestanding is normal, they signed a contract, and he was in his right to use the bathroom as many times as he wanted, but we have to be clear that his frecuency is suspicious.
Changing the rules for the rest rooms is clearly ilegal, because both players had to agree on this and kramnik didn't even knew about this until a few hours after the game, so I think he has a point in not playing game 5, but at the same time, I think he should have played it, to further demostrate that he is not cheating, and then he could have taken some action on the desition made.
My understanding was that Kramnik was affraid of game 5 result, because if he woud have lost this game, then people could have belived he was cheating( or at least that there was the posibility), and he didn't want to risk his image like this, I support him in this.
I am waiting the following result of games with the new security measures(if taken), and we will all know what was really happening(Maybe for psicological reasons they are missing obvious moves).
result:
Topalov has a point, his opponent's behavior can cause distraction to his game,but is overreacting.
Kramnik has suspicious behavior in games which must be corrected or at least supervised to give topalov asurance that everything is in order, as for his actions, they are all justified.
Originally posted by Los AngelesDanailov's request is a clear effort to compromise any semblance of privacy and decency (although some journalists, lacking any sense of propriety, agree with him).
Let me tell you again where you are wrong.
[b]Silvio Danailov asked that RECORDS BE AVAILABLE TO ALL ACCREDITED JOURNALISTS.
http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?t=17
Before posting can you please read a bit so that we don't repeat over and over again well known facts?[/b]
It's not enough to read the news reports, you must understand them. Why don't you read the contract that the players signed, and then with appropriate references to said text, made your argument for the reasonableness of Topalov's demands, or of the FIDE committee's decision.
If you wish to dispute John Nunn's argument, it helps to actually take issue with his position. You have failed in this.
Kramnik is demanding adherence to the signed contract, which has been essentially his position since the Prague Agreement of 2002. His position has earned him the scorn of the chess world, but this time Topalov is the one maligned by growing numbers.
Six months ago, it was a rare chess player that would take Kramnik's side in any dispute. The dramatic change in Kramnik's level of popularity is itself one of the surest clues to the possibility that justice is on his side (although the majority are so often wrong).
I agree with the opinion of Dr.John Nunn. Looking at the close ties of the Topalov camp with FIDE, you now see the old boys network "working". This situation is just created by the Topalov camp, in the name of the obscure person Danailov, to undermine the excenllent chess qualities of Vladimir Kramnik. Probably Topalov was not sure of his form/chess shape. When this is not solved before the next game, the chessworld will be divided again. Who benefits ? Maybe the FIDE with his doubtful teammembers and the sitting FIDE champion. I guess no one then have any sympathy for this champion "in construction".
Originally posted by WiabjTopalov benefits, since he may be able to cling on to his meaningless FIDE paper title. If he played on, he knows he would lose it. Hence this mess.
I agree with the opinion of Dr.John Nunn. Looking at the close ties of the Topalov camp with FIDE, you now see the old boys network "working". This situation is just created by the Topalov camp, in the name of the obscure person Danailov, to undermine the excenllent chess qualities of Vladimir Kramnik. Probably Topalov was not sure of his form/chess shape. Whe ...[text shortened]... ng FIDE champion. I guess no one then have any sympathy for this champion "in construction".
Originally posted by Los AngelesEasy.
One thing is for sure.
As they say "Satan is the author of lies and cheats."
[b] TOPALOV SHOWED UP TO PLAY YESTERDAY. WHERE WAS KRAMNIK?[/b]
Kramnik turned up to play - but in his case, he also did so according to the contract, rules and regulations.
The same rules FIDE allowed Topalov to change without any reason.
Los Angeles, I am beginning to think you must be the biggest Kramnik fan out there, as you make defending Topalov seem totally impossible!
Originally posted by Los Angelesyou keep repeating the same thing, while it has been answered already a few times. You can also find the answer yourself, if you look around on chessbase enough.
One thing is for sure.
As they say "Satan is the author of lies and cheats."
[b] TOPALOV SHOWED UP TO PLAY YESTERDAY. WHERE WAS KRAMNIK?[/b]
But, please continue making up arguments for Topalov, and arguments against Kramnik, I find it very amusing what you keep coming up with! You have a creative mind.
Seriously, L.A., how long have you followed Topalov's career? Were you a fan prior to his break out a year and a half ago?
If so, what was his record against Kramnik prior to this match?
I ask because the statements you are making are not those of someone who has followed the game for any extensive period of time and simply hops on the "who is playing the best right now" bandwagon.
..............both players should not be allowed to go to the restrooms
they should not be allowed to have long hair to avoid earphones and they should play the game until it's finished so that there would be no cheating accusations....................
One of them desperately needs a toilet bowl installed instead of a chair. Actually he might have set a Guinness WC record now.