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Is it posible, kramnik cheating?

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Kramnik might have set this up long before the match started, so he can get "tips" without bringing suspicions by requesting "private bathrooms" connected to the relaxation rooms.

Why don't you be honest at least one time with yourself about this issue.

If Kramnik was confident he is better than Topalov he would have showed up to play.


The Private bathrooms are the only place with no video monitoring. And it appears that Kramnik's team members have been using it as well. That's why they don't want the video records given to the journalists.


All your posts show that you cannot handle the truth. How can I have a reasonable discussion with such people?

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Kramnik's behavior reminds me of that of Bill Clinton when he got in the Monica scandal mess. He was hardly willing to show any kind of records as well. He used all his power (including CIA) to cover up things. But the truth came out nevertheless.


Originally posted by Los Angeles
How can I have a reasonable discussion with such people?
Being reasonable yourself would be a good start.

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
..............both players should not be allowed to go to the restrooms
they should not be allowed to have long hair to avoid earphones and they should play the game until it's finished so that there would be no cheating accusations....................



One of them desperately needs a toilet bowl installed instead of a chair. Actually he might have set a Guinness WC record now.
For me, you can put your opinions up to your fat arse.
You are a fake.

And you should be a 3(a) banned "player" (0 moves).
You don't have the balls (or ovaries) to show your face in public.

Coward.

Why don't you post under your (well known I think) "real" (usual) nick?
What are you afraid of?

Oh gawd...

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
Kramnik's behavior reminds me of that of Bill Clinton when he got in the Monica scandal mess. He was hardly willing to show any kind of records as well. He used all his power (including CIA) to cover up things. But the truth came out nevertheless.
Maybe Kramnik's got Monica Lewinsky hidden in his washroom

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Originally posted by Siskin
Kramnik's got Monica Lewinsky hidden in his washroom
😀

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Well Monica's been here in London the last year and so has Kramnik! It sounds more likely than most of Los Angeles's posts, anyhow.

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Originally posted by Siskin
Maybe Kramnik's got Monica Lewinsky hidden in his washroom
She sucks... at chess... 😛

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Toiletgate · Sep 29, 08:38 PM

How a small complaint can revolve the world around? The “toiletgate” we witness at the Wcc 2006 is a perfect example. How far will it go?
It all began a day before the championship’s first game. Shower cabins have been removed from the bathrooms on request by Topalov. Nothing serious, no complaints from Kramniks side. The cabins have been desinstalled without any problem. No matter how long a game is, taking shower in the middle of it is pure lack of respect to the opponent.

On the 24th after the second game a more serious complaint came from Silvio Danailov. During game two strangers have had access to Veselin Topalov’s room. Reaction by FIDE and the organizing commettee was immediate and restricted accsess to relaxaion rooms. Again adequate request and adequate reaction by FIDE.



However, a small question raised by the Bulgarian delegation the same day provoked doubts.

****Video records from rooms were supposedly missing.****

****With open access to the rooms and no official records anything could have happened in the rooms.****


This sequence of events increased the attention of the Bulgarian delegation. *****An analysis made by the team showed that Mr. Kramnik goes to the bathroom more than 50 times per match, especially in critical moments of the game.*****


*****Since there is no audio or video vigilance at the place it seems kind of strange that the Russian chess player has spent more time in the toilet than on the playing board. *****

Topalov expressed clearly that for him “taking the most important decisions in the bathroom” is a lack of respect.


This also seems like a logical complaint. Chess is a noble game. Kramnik’s missing from the board most of the time is not normal.


A sharp reaction was released by Silvio Danailov on the issue. FIDE acted almost immediatelly and rectified the situation. Some video records have been provided to the Bulgarian team and toilet rules have been changed. But not to the full extenct of the request. Tapes were not provided to mass media and no assistant arbiter has been allowed in the bathroom area.

Despite the chain of negative Veselin Topalov came for the fifth game on time. He sat down in the playing hall waiting for Kramnik.

But the Russian player was not present. He entered the hall late and went straight to his room for relaxation.

The clocks were started, but Vladimir Kramnik refused to come and play. According to the rules Topalov won by forfeit on time.
Kramnik stated that he is deeply disturbed by the accusations of Veselin Topalov and Silvio Danailov. However, no accusations were made.

The declarations simply expressed concern for Mr. Kramnik’s behavior as sportsman and minor concerns for facilities.

The incidents from the 22nd, 24th, and 28th were normal requests accompaning any major sports event.

The refusal of Vladimir Kramnik to sit and play a game is a clear breaking of rules and a direct offence to Veselin Topalov.

Facilities discussion, playing conditions, etc is the job of the managers.

Players’ job is to play, a thing that Mr. Kramnik refused to do.

Later on Kramnik retreated to his villa to rest. Will he continue to play or abandon the match? Is this just a psycological game? How will this affect future chess events? Stay on for updates on the ongoing conflict.

http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?p=31#post31

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
[b]Toiletgate · Sep 29, 08:38 PM

How a small complaint can revolve the world around? The “toiletgate” we witness at the Wcc 2006 is a perfect example. How far will it go?
It all began a day before the championship’s first game. Shower cabins have been removed from the bathrooms on request by Topalov. Nothing serious, no complaints from Kramniks side ...[text shortened]... n for updates on the ongoing conflict. http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?p=31#post31
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Ok, ok, go and take your pills mateulose... I'm done with you.

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LA you are not normal go to a shrink!!

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One can often hear such language from the losing party.

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
One can often hear such language from the losing party.
Any other voices you often hear?

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LA, Who is losing I think you are!! Play first a normal chess game, to prove your insight in chess!

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Originally posted by Wiabj
LA, Who is losing I think you are!! Play first a normal chess game, to prove your insight in chess!
Get some $$$$ and come to Los Angeles to play chess with me if you insist so much.

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