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07 Dec 06
07 Dec 06
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The easiest of all endings to force as the 2R can do this without involving the K.
From this position (black to move)
1. ... Kf7
The King cannot be mated in the centre so go there
2. Ra6
Restrict the Kings space as much as possible
3. ... Kg7
Preventing Rh7+
4. Ke2
Freeing the Rh1 to move to the b file. Rh2 is just as effective
4. ... K87
Still preventing Rh7
5. Ra7
Restricting the K to the back rank
6. ... Kf1
There is nothing else
7. Rh8++
K & Q vs K coming up
07 Dec 06
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Originally posted by ShinidokiI am waiting for the tutorial "Mate with 8P+2R+2N+2B+Q+K vs 8P+2R+2N+2B+Q+K".
Here's my tutorial:-
Step 1) drop a rook.
Step 2) find the other guide on how to mate K+R v K
why bother teaching endgames with irelevant material? (eg. N+Q+K v K)
N+K v K+Q, on the other hand is much more useful.
07 Dec 06
Originally posted by ShinidokiBecause people keep asking how!
Here's my tutorial:-
Step 1) drop a rook.
Step 2) find the other guide on how to mate K+R v K
why bother teaching endgames with irelevant material? (eg. N+Q+K v K)
N+K v K+Q, on the other hand is much more useful.
I can't explain all the principles of how to mate with K & Q vs K, B & N or how to draw with K & 2B vs K & Q or K & 2Ns vs K & Q (yes these 2 endings should be drawn if the weaker side is able to get the correct set up of their pieces without them falling to forks) - you need to get a book for that, but I can explain the basics to those that ask.
07 Dec 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireIt might help students to picture fences.
The easiest of all endings to force as the 2R can do this without involving the K.
From this position (black to move)
[fen]4k3/8/8/8/8/8/8/R3K2R[/fen]
1. ... Kf7
[b] The King cannot be mated in the centre so go there
2. Ra6
Restrict the Kings space as much as possible
3. ... Kg7
Preventing Rh7+
...[text shortened]... [/b][/i]
6. ... Kf1
There is nothing else
7. Rh8++
K & Q vs K coming up[/b]
2. Ra6 creates a fence along the 6th rank that the black king cannot cross over. The rook acts as the fence post. the fence is from a8 -a6 and a6-h6.
5.Ra7 similarly a new fence has been created. Now the fence is a8-a7 and a7-h7. The black king cannot cross this fence.
This is how most people teach beginners since it's easier to visualize 🙂
07 Dec 06
Originally posted by RahimKI think your analogy is useful. However, I'd point out that the rook itself is not a fence post but rather a gap in the fence! An enemy king on b5 can move to a6. 🙂
2. Ra6 creates a fence along the 6th rank that the black king cannot cross over. The rook acts as the fence post. the fence is from a8 -a6 and a6-h6.
07 Dec 06
Originally posted by lauseyThats fine. If you have broadband as it only takes 600 million billion terabytes of disk spave when compressed.
Yes please.
It might be a bit big to email directly. I suggest zipping it.
Cheers.
It will run quite happily on a 6000THz hexruple core Pentium P935 and will only take 2 million years to give you the answer.
What is your e-mail and I'll send it across now?
07 Dec 06
Originally posted by Dragon Fireyet another failed attempt to sound cool.
Thats fine. If you have broadband as it only takes 600 million billion terabytes of disk spave when compressed.
It will run quite happily on a 6000THz hexruple core Pentium P935 and will only take 2 million years to give you the answer.
What is your e-mail and I'll send it across now?