Originally posted by RahimKWhats wrong with 1 g4? Its a great move.
No 1.h4 or 1.g4 stuff etc... and Bring you pieces out before instead of making lots of pawn moves etc...
I am playing 10 games with it at the moment!
Edit: Make that 8 as I have won 2 of them!
Edit 2: I am going to play some with 1 h4 to see if this is also crap!
Edit 3: In fact I will play some with 1. h4 and 2. g4 Game 2282017 - ongoing so no comments allowed
Originally posted by Dragon FireGame 2111102 😀
I am going to play some with 1 h4 to see if this is also crap!
1.g4 -- The "grubby" Grob.
the problem with it is simple.
Within the first move you have pretty much ruled out kingside castling, and havn't done much to develop the centre.
its only real "first move merit" Is that it allows the bishop to a good square - in which case, 1.g3!...2. Bg2....3.Nf6...4.0-0 [hypermodernism]
*** Had some problems posting my Whole "post"
so this is the 2nd part, the first, above^^^
but despite these shortcomings, it has quite a bit of theory to it, All of which seems to make the grob a tactical minefield.
This is why is works well at blitz, and often, otb games.
Unfortunatly however, it opening is a little unsound, which should mean in corr. chess it should be easily refuted.
I have a Book by bloodgood, databases, opening books, and have enough time to do a little interent research - and by doing so, I should be able to advoid the trap and pitfuls and come out shining.
Take this game as example (corr.): - http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1286141
Black played simply, ignored g4, and simply developed the centre - in the mean time, white was busy with an ineffective pawn storm.
while your on the site, take a look at this: - http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1003742
^ a whole bunch of wins and loses
Originally posted by Dragon FireFor beginners it's a horrible move. That's not how you learn to play chess. Once your are better do what you want.
Whats wrong with 1 g4? Its a great move.
I am playing 10 games with it at the moment!
Edit: Make that 8 as I have won 2 of them!
Edit 2: I am going to play some with 1 h4 to see if this is also crap!
Edit 3: In fact I will play some with 1. h4 and 2. g4 Game 2282017 - ongoing so no comments allowed
As for the game link, honestly my opinion: Ratings.... Lots of people can play crazy opening and still win against people 500+ points lower then than them. Nothing to be proud off.
Originally posted by RahimKYou don't think I will challenge someone rated 1800 with this opening do you?
For beginners it's a horrible move. That's not how you learn to play chess. Once your are better do what you want.
As for the game link, honestly my opinion: Ratings.... Lots of people can play crazy opening and still win against people 500+ points lower then than them. Nothing to be proud off.
Originally posted by The DrakeSee my answer under the thread you started on this tactic test.
Can some one explain the how the answer to no3 works please @ http://chess.about.com/library/midgames/blmb2a02.htm
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Here is the initial evidence of h4!
Game 2282017 swifty followed by that other bad move g4. Note the way the pawns storm forward down the g and h ranks eventually assisting with delivering mate.
Alternatively Game 2282032 where g4 is delayed to move 6. Again a pawn storm assists a break through and helps the Q deliver mate on the 7th rank.
Or Game 2282018 where both h4 and g4 are again played and is victory is achieved in under 20 moves with a stunning back rank mate
For g4 a stunning victory Game 2269230
So the results so far
h4 P3 W3 D0 L0 , 2 in progress.
g4 P1 W1 D0 L0, 9 in progress.
Pretty conclusive so far!