Game 4156659
I don't see a black blunder and a good chunk of the game comes straight out of an opening book. I'd really like some higher level players to analyze this game, Fritz isn't finding anything.
Originally posted by ih8sensFritz gave the go ahead on pawn f6?
Game 4156659
I don't see a black blunder and a good chunk of the game comes straight out of an opening book. I'd really like some higher level players to analyze this game, Fritz isn't finding anything.
that created the g6 weakness that you so brilliantly exploited...
also, black's king wound up on the wrong side of the board (f6 was bad enough, castling into that mess?!? that was worse.
look objectively at black's piece placement with respect to the black king...
black has virtually no space, and all the pieces that COULD have maybe defended the king were on the other side of the board... with no space to maneuver in, black was hopeless...
you played a brilliant positional game. This game could be used by all as an example of how king protection IS one of the important concepts of the game, and how to punish the opponent when he/she fails to do so.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexBlack's biggest blunder was getting checkmated.
I have a feeling that 7....cxd5 might have given black a more hopeful game, as it was his position was too cramped to avoid the big attack. It is the sort of positional error a computer is unlikely to find.
Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschexindeed, you said that while I was typing my essay down there...
I have a feeling that 7....cxd5 might have given black a more hopeful game, as it was his position was too cramped to avoid the big attack. It is the sort of positional error a computer is unlikely to find.
but basically, it was a profound positional disadvantage for black. as we discussed in an earlier thread, a computer is not likely to spot these positional imbalances...
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexThat's what I'm thinking but Bxh7+ also has to be considered. Fritz immediately gives Bxh7+ a 2 pawn defecit and then takes it right back giving white a small edge after Ng5+... an edge that grows.
I have a feeling that 7....cxd5 might have given black a more hopeful game, as it was his position was too cramped to avoid the big attack. It is the sort of positional error a computer is unlikely to find.
I'm confused 😛.. Fritz is now being closed, it's retarded.
About f6... yah fritz gave it the go ahead.. in fact, black supposedly had a 0.25 edge at the point. (it is also the most commonly played move among GM's)
Fritz is now closed, lets put our brains together and hope to god Korch shows up 😛.
I think 13. ... Nb6 was a bad move on blacks part. The knight wasn't going to do anything from there. I think 13...fxe5 was better. opening up the center and trying to free some of blacks cramp. Whites king is still in the center so if the center gets opened up, white will have to spend time castling. Black would have also had the newly opened f-file to work with, possibly doubling rooks there, trying to develop his pieces.
Originally posted by hammster21that's probably right but white still has a pile of pieces knocking on black's castle. Perhaps ... O-O was wrong... naaah it can't be, anand played it.
I think 13. ... Ng3 was a bad move on blacks part. The knight wasn't going to do anything from there. I think 13...fxe5 was better. opening up the center and trying to free some of blacks cramp. Whites king is still in the center so if the center gets opened up, white will have to spend time castling. Black would have also had the newly opened f-file to work with, possibly doubling rooks there, trying to develop his pieces.
I'm confuzzled. Has the line been refuted? or is there some way to keep black safe?
Originally posted by ih8senssomething with the f-pawn must be flawed...
that's probably right but white still has a pile of pieces knocking on black's castle. Perhaps ... O-O was wrong... naaah it can't be, anand played it.
I'm confuzzled. Has the line been refuted? or is there some way to keep black safe?
and maybe castling was incorrect, maybe Anand made a mistake... *gasp* Anand? making a human error?!?! impossible!
f5 also looks uglier than f6, since now e5 is dominant...
you are correct, fxe5 or just leaving the pawn on f6 was better.
Instead of 15... Bd7 maybe black could try 15 .... g6. I think it locks down whites attack for the most part. White can still open up the h file but it will take time to build pressure and i think black can defend from there.
edit: With g6 now both of whites bishops are essentially locked out of the king side assault, while blacks can provide some defense, especially with blacks dark squared bishop being able to trade down on g5, possibly removing some more cramp from blacks position.
Originally posted by hammster21That's it. g6 HAS to be it... white's attack is overpowering otherwise... now time to run it through the computer.
Instead of 15... Bd7 maybe black could try 15 .... g6. I think it locks down whites attack for the most part. White can still open up the h file but it will take time to build pressure and i think black can defend from there.
edit: With g6 now both of whites bishops are essentially locked out of the king side assault, while blacks can provide some defe ...[text shortened]... d bishop being able to trade down on g5, possibly removing some more cramp from blacks position.