Originally posted by marinakatombOops, you screwed up. Public cheating accusations aren't allowed in the forums.
AHHHAAAA, we have an engine user!! WELL DONE 😀😀
I've never claimed credit for a computer's solution. I'm just a damn good solver. Perhaps you'd like to explain how I solve series problems, proof games and retrograde problems that computers aren't capable of solving?!
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemHe was having a little fun. I didn't read that as a cheat accusation, and it certainly wasn't anything close to accusing you of using an engine in a game.
Oops, you screwed up. Public cheating accusations aren't allowed in the forums.
I've never claimed credit for a computer's solution. I'm just a damn good solver. Perhaps you'd like to explain how I solve series problems, proof games and retrograde problems that computers aren't capable of solving?!
Be advised your action WILL be reported to moderators. Have a nice day.
Originally posted by BLReidIf a person would use an engine to solve problems for them, what's stopping them from using it to play games for them?
He was having a little fun. I didn't read that as a cheat accusation, and it certainly wasn't anything close to accusing you of using an engine in a game.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemQuite a bit, as they are entirely different concepts. But more specifically, there was nothing in his post that implied that you use engines to play your games. He was just being funny, go with it.
If a person would use an engine to solve problems for them, what's stopping them from using it to play games for them?
Originally posted by BLReidEthically, if someone has no problem using a computer for solving, they probably wouldn't have a problem with using a computer for playing, either.
Quite a bit, as they are entirely different concepts. But more specifically, there was nothing in his post that implied that you use engines to play your games. He was just being funny, go with it.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemEarlier in this thread someone said that the best Fritz can come up with is a mate in 4. No one shouted engine (ab)user then.
Ethically, if someone has no problem using a computer for solving, they probably wouldn't have a problem with using a computer for playing, either.
I see I fundamental difference between using Fritz to help you learn tactics and find ways to identify mistakes, improve and find wins than to use Fritz to actually play a game for you.
What is wrong if you play a game and lose. You know where your mistake was but not exactly why. So you put the game into Fritz which finds an improvement for you. A few games later you play that inprovement in a new game and go on to win. Is this cheating? Surely not! Isn't it just the same as going through the game with your local club champion and having him help with analysis and finding the improvement or even placing it on the forum here and finding ways to play better. Either way you have had external help to improve your game but you did not have help in the game. There is a key difference!
Its just the same with this problem. Using a computer to help solve it, provided you do not claim the solution as your own is not cheating so why shout about it. Computers aren't infallable but if there is a mate in 3 then I'm surprised Fritz can only come up with mate in 4. perhaps someone can explain why this is so?