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Who is the best player ever?

Who is the best player ever?

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No, I am sorry....but I can try to find it again.

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Originally posted by DagamoStyle
No, I am sorry....but I can try to find it again.
No problem, I was just curious. Don't spend a lot of time looking.

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Originally posted by Patzergrl
Tal who? I agree with Symlov when he said Tal just uses tricks...or Korchnoi for saying "Tal is an average player"
Don't tell Botvinnik that Tal was a average player using tricks.

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is there a good book on that battle?

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Originally posted by jvanhine
is there a good book on that battle?
If you mean Tal and Botvinnik, yeah, a good one is Tal-Botvinnik 1960, by Tal. Russell Enterprises has a fairly recent algebraic edition out. I'm told the book isn't too shabby. (Jut kidding, everyone says it's a classic.)

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ok, thanks...i knew there was more than one....thanks

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Originally posted by Mad Rook
If you mean Tal and Botvinnik, yeah, a good one is Tal-Botvinnik 1960, by Tal. Russell Enterprises has a fairly recent algebraic edition out. I'm told the book isn't too shabby. (Jut kidding, everyone says it's a classic.)
tnx M.R i'll check it out ,love the classics. there is nothing new under thr sun

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Originally posted by el gil
I'm just a 1442-player, so I'm asking to the guys in this site who really know chess deeply...

...as far as I can say, maybe FISCHER (for his precocity, and for the unbelievable things he's done in his short career)
There has been a book (I cannot remember the name) published that tries to compare the world champions trying to establish a unifed rating system by which they can be measured.

The results were as follows:

1. Kasparov

2. Karpov

3. Fischer

But I doubt everyone will agree to this!!

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Originally posted by demonseed
There has been a book (I cannot remember the name) published that tries to compare the world champions trying to establish a unifed rating system by which they can be measured.

The results were as follows:

1. Kasparov

2. Karpov

3. Fischer

But I doubt everyone will agree to this!!
Thats about the list I would choose. Save for maybe Fischer above Karpov

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Originally posted by demonseed
There has been a book (I cannot remember the name) published that tries to compare the world champions trying to establish a unifed rating system by which they can be measured.

The results were as follows:

1. Kasparov

2. Karpov

3. Fischer

But I doubt everyone will agree to this!!
no way!

1. Tal

2. Byrne

3. Westerinen

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Originally posted by Jusuh
no way!

1. Tal

2. Byrne

3. Westerinen
Byrne?

I can only assume you are taking the mick?

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what about biggest contrutors to openings/strategies/etc...

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Originally posted by jvanhine
what about biggest contrutors to openings/strategies/etc...
what about the people that invented chess? I wonder if they where any good

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Much as I like Tal, I do think he was sort of a "First Among Equals". To even make a top 5 list, I think you need to look at players who were clearly better than the rest of the competition for a big chunk of their careers. I think the best all time would be one of the following:

Morphy
Lasker
Capablanca
Alekhine
Fischer
Kasparov
Deep Blue 🙂

Maybe Karpov as well. His game was dull, but he dominated chess for over a decade while being very active and was extremely hard to beat. Given that he actually missed a win to clicch that aborted match, it's hard not to put him on the list along with Kasparov.

Still, from that list, I vote Kasparov the best. He combined creative genius with studiousness, mental stability and a great will to win.

'Course, I'm not even a Class A player so what do I know. It's fun to talk trash anyway...

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good list🙂