Originally posted by amolv06But can't learned experiences/behaviors be based on mathematical calculations even if we
Heh, this is a subject I've wondered about as well.
My thoughts are that there is no mathematics going on at all in doing such things. Rather, we recall on past experiences and recognize patterns here and there, something our brains are relatively good at. No idea if thats true or not, just my two cents.
Originally posted by PalynkaI think we do math all the time, but crude, and not based on nombers.
I think people can do that pretty poorly, actually. It's infuriating how many people accelerate into a red light just to hit the brakes a few seconds later (especially if someone tries to cross the street!).
But there is an intuitive understanding that applying more force can lead to acceleration of objects and stopping to apply leads to an inertial dece ...[text shortened]... ink these two basic things can provide the basis for a quick understanding of those two things.
Originally posted by FabianFnasDo you remember my poser of that last, how far is the max distance you can drive to save gas at a cheaper station X distance away? Someone made up a very long formula for that, reminded me of the drake equation a bit
[b]I think we do math all the time, but crude, and not based on nombers.
Like, if I accellerate a bit, I can come before the other car to the crossing, or if I turn my wheel too much I lose the friction of the road in the coming corner.
Or money, if I buy 3 boxes of cherries for a fiver I save a little instead of bying two for 1€70 and another one tomo ust comes from my natural curiosity, not sure anyone else consciously attempts that while driving.
Originally posted by sonhouseTrial and error, and lots of dead people who can't judge these things to weed them out of the breeding pool.
For instance, you are driving down the road doing 80 Km/hr and a stupid school bus is ahead about 200 meters doing 30 Klicks. You know you can save a bit of energy not hitting your brakes but letting the engine slow you down and you find yourself able to judge the decel rate well enough to usually avoid hitting the bus, that is to say, making your relative ...[text shortened]... g forced to learn to drive, would he also have that skill from the start, with the bus example?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraConsuming vast quantities of beer and crisps aids a dart-player's induction considerably.
The answer is induction. People don't really understand how acceleration, friction, gravity, etc. work but they get a feel of the effects due to experience.
For example, a darts player does not improve by more accurately taking into account the friction of the dart arrow, but by practising so that his brain is more accustomed to estimating the trajectory of the arrow by induction.
Originally posted by Traveling AgainMath describes the dog, but the dog is not performing mathematical calculations. Is a raindrop doing math in order to maintain as close to a perfect sphere as it possibly can?
But can't learned experiences/behaviors be based on mathematical calculations even if we
don't know we're doing it?
Example: a 3-yr old learning to shoot basketballs into a hoop. Surely the toddler doesn't know
calculus, but aren't the patterns and actions he is doing over and over based on some sort of
"advanced" calculations? Even if i ...[text shortened]... out the ability to articulate it in writing or on graphs.
Very interesting thread.