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Originally posted by MISTER CHESSWe are talking statistically. One literate city doesn't compensate for 1000 illiterate ones.
Actually the most literate city in the world is in the USA. That city is Seattle, Washington.
Originally posted by MISTER CHESS"learning" what? I was talking specifically about algebra (and nothing else ) which is a language of sorts.
Children learning quicker than adults is a myth. Depending on what age you classify children and adults.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThey pass their college algebra class. They just get nothing out of it.
It is a waste of time trying to teach and advance course in anything to someone who has not done the beginner course. You are basically talking about students who didn't do enough math in school, then get to college and want to do something that requires math. And they fail as a result.
Surely this is a good argument for improving math education in schoo ...[text shortened]... o the more advanced math have little hope of doing anything science related at university level.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou know that they learned something that is simply buried?
Maybe the learning gets buried but it is still there, their brains are better off for the learning, even if it doesn't show up right away.
Originally posted by EladarYep, let's just keep dumbing down education in the US. If a kid doesn't understand something in 5 seconds with little effort, let's just toss it out. Why ruin their childhood by making them work their brains a bit.
I didn't say it wasn't useful. I just said taking it is a waste of time, money and effort for many. Making it a requirement for all is simply stupid.
Originally posted by PhrannyI believe that is one of the main objectives of the Texas Board of Education. 🙄🙄
Yep, let's just keep dumbing down education in the US. If a kid doesn't understand something in 5 seconds with little effort, let's just toss it out. Why ruin their childhood by making them work their brains a bit.
Originally posted by RJHindselectrician
There is no need to hold up a person from graduating from high school just because they have no credit for algebra 2. That can be learned in college, if necessary. I am not aware of any jobs available to high school graduates in the U.S. that require a need for understanding algebra 2.
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Originally posted by PhrannyIf you want to make kids learn then require them to pass a competency exam. Making them take a class, but not requiring them to learn is what we have today.
Yep, let's just keep dumbing down education in the US. If a kid doesn't understand something in 5 seconds with little effort, let's just toss it out. Why ruin their childhood by making them work their brains a bit.
Originally posted by PonderableAlgebra I and Spanish I is good enough for most high school students in Texas. Algebra II and Spanish II should be elective, as well as any courses to be an electrician, carpenter, etc.
electrician
just to show how ridiculous that claim is.
Originally posted by EladarHow would you go about "requiring" students to learn?
If you want to make kids learn then require them to pass a competency exam. Making them take a class, but not requiring them to learn is what we have today.
It is a total waste of time and money.
Originally posted by wolfgang59That would be where inspiring teachers come in. If the teachers are the result of the previous generation of so-so education, what do you think the next generation is going to get in the way of teachers?
How would you go about "requiring" students to learn?
Are you going to turn pedagogy upside down with your revelations?