Originally posted by sonhouse Here is the thing: A HS student most often does not know WHAT he or she will be taking in college. It is best to be well rounded educationally and algebra trains you in problem solving techniques that can have benefits in other areas even if it is not directly involved in math. So you can't say when a kid is 16 in most cases just what they want to do 2 or 3 ...[text shortened]... want after all. Can't have people actually using their brains to think through your line of BS.
As I understand it, we were talking only about Algebra II being required for graduating HS. Those students that want to learn Algebra II will pick it, if they find Algebra I interesting. There is no need to require Algebra II or Spanish II to graduate. If the students are interested in learning more in these areas they will pick them.
Originally posted by googlefudge Are you basing your opinions upon empirical statistically significant surveys of large
numbers of school children from a representative range of backgrounds in a representative
range of schools... Or are you basing it on your own limited perspective as a teacher where
the students likely to stand out and be noticed are the trouble makers and those that don't
want to learn?
I am basing my observation on 15 years of teaching in 2 different districts and 4 different schools, as well as my year substitute teaching for many different schools and school districts.
Originally posted by Eladar It would be better for everyone if those who don't wish to learn were not in school at all.
Schools are jammed packed with kids who don't want to learn,
A teacher with this attitude will probably find his/her pupils do not want to learn.
In my experience all students want to learn. It's the tasks we provide them
with that they sometimes find boring. (My experience is only up to Year8
so I admit I haven't had a class of older teens trying to act cool!)
Originally posted by wolfgang59 A teacher with this attitude will probably find his/her pupils do not want to learn.
In my experience all students want to learn. It's the tasks we provide them
with that they sometimes find boring. (My experience is only up to Year8
so I admit I haven't had a class of older teens trying to act cool!)
Exactly what is your experience? A student's experience is very limited.
Btw, it was not an attitude. It was an observation. You can ask any teacher in the public school system who teaches general level kids and they will repeat what I've said.
Originally posted by RJHinds It appears to me that most students at the HS level are more interested in learning how to be popular and sports than in learning academics.
Speaking of sports, the local school district canceled school today because the football team made the state championship game!
Originally posted by Eladar Speaking of sports, the local school district canceled school today because the football team made the state championship game!
I know American football is a very important activity in Texas.
Originally posted by Eladar I am basing my observation on 15 years of teaching in 2 different districts and 4 different schools, as well as my year substitute teaching for many different schools and school districts.
You teach? I guess they mean it when they say only dumb people are teachers... how did they word it? Oh yeah... those who can't do, teach.
Originally posted by MISTER CHESS You teach? I guess they mean it when they say only dumb people are teachers... how did they word it? Oh yeah... those who can't do, teach.
I've seen a lot of pretty stupid teachers.
My math test scores consistently placed me in the top 95th-99th percentile. In 7th grade I took the SAT as part of a program out of Princeton.
I've taught everything from 7th grade math through AP Calculus.
I believe that forcing kids to take a class that they do not learn from is a waste of time.
So are you implying that kids cannot learn maths so it is a wast of time trying?
If so, then it is strange that both I and, with just one exception, all the kids that I knew at school learned maths just fine; the exception being a certain psychop ...[text shortened]... choose to be a toilet cleaner if you don't know maths and insisted on never learning it.
Originally posted by MISTER CHESS You teach? I guess they mean it when they say only dumb people are teachers... how did they word it? Oh yeah... those who can't do, teach.
It takes, or should take, only minimal wits to insult the likes of Eladar without also insulting all teachers everywhere. Effin' moron.
Originally posted by Soothfast It takes, or should take, only minimal wits to insult the likes of Eladar without also insulting all teachers everywhere. Effin' moron.
As you can see from my reply to his post he was completely wrong about me, but was right about many other teachers.
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