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@sonhouse said
But your basic underlying argument is mere humans can never figure out how life started because you KNOW God did it.
No, my basic argument is that given what we do know, what could do what we see, in life, and the answer is a mind designed life that way to do what it does. With our shared knowledge, we can look at what is in front of us, recognize its specified, functional, integrated, systematic complexity, and give credit where it is due.

You back the who-knows, no one-knows, it-cannot-be-known, it-is-a-mystery, I-just-know-you’re-wrong theme without being able to tell me why I'm wrong crowd.

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Aren't there concise terms instead of saying evolution or mutation for everything? Like speciation and variation.

On the wider points, I think a many_worlds interpretation is as fanciful as belief in soul reincarnation, but I've seen arguments that cause me to question if annihilation is possible.

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@Of-Ants-and-Imps said
Aren't there concise terms instead of saying evolution or mutation for everything? Like speciation and variation.

On the wider points, I think a many_worlds interpretation is as fanciful as belief in soul reincarnation, but I've seen arguments that cause me to question if annihilation is possible.
A code, it can be digital or any other type, including biological, precise instructions to do complex work, some much more sophisticated than others, and in biology, it doesn’t get any more functionally complex, far beyond human capabilities, and yet people believe in time and chance, or however you want to describe it, instead of information-driven. That is where the changes occur, and if that code is so mutable, it can change anywhere at any time. You do not have informational certainty in the code, but uncertainty, a lack of information. It will not function.

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@KellyJay said
With you, I don’t bother arguing. You don’t speak to the topic; you speak about people, telling them what they are thinking and why, never addressing the topic.
I am telling THEM what THEY are thinking. Show me where I said I knew what THEY were thinking and who is THEY anyway?

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@KellyJay said
No, my basic argument is that given what we do know, what could do what we see, in life, and the answer is a mind designed life that way to do what it does. With our shared knowledge, we can look at what is in front of us, recognize its specified, functional, integrated, systematic complexity, and give credit where it is due.

You back the who-knows, no one-knows, it-cann ...[text shortened]... , it-is-a-mystery, I-just-know-you’re-wrong theme without being able to tell me why I'm wrong crowd.
The answer is MIND created life, code for GOD DID IT.

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@sonhouse said
The answer is MIND created life, code for GOD DID IT.
Code? The point is a mind is required to narrow that down other Intel is required.

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@sonhouse said
I am telling THEM what THEY are thinking. Show me where I said I knew what THEY were thinking and who is THEY anyway?
You are forever telling me what I am saying, and why. You should at least own what you say as you are telling me what I am saying.

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@KellyJay said
Code? The point is a mind is required to narrow that down other Intel is required.
And the "mind" you are talking about has nothing to do with your concept of god?

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@sonhouse said
And the "mind" you are talking about has nothing to do with your concept of god?
It does not matter a mind is required, but if it makes you feel better I do believe He is the reason for both the complexity of life, and the fine tuning of the universe.

You believe the cause or causes for those are what, a grand you don’t know?

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@KellyJay said
It does not matter a mind is required, but if it makes you feel better I do believe He is the reason for both the complexity of life, and the fine tuning of the universe.

You believe the cause or causes for those are what, a grand you don’t know?
Don't worry, I gave up dissing religious folks. I have my opinion you have yours lets leave it at that.

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@sonhouse said
Don't worry, I gave up dissing religious folks. I have my opinion you have yours lets leave it at that.
Wish you would.

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I'm out for the count
Life is an impossible Racter machine!

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A fungus has been discovered in Chernobyl which feeds on radiation, which is still present in pollution after the nuclear disaster. In a mere few decades, it has evolved to fill a niche, and take advantage of something which wasn't there before; it actually seeks out radiation. (Yum) Given the billions upon billions of years since life has existed on Earth, anything is possible within the realms of 'nature'; nature has no god, nature needs no god, ain't nature wonderful.

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@Indonesia-Phil said
A fungus has been discovered in Chernobyl which feeds on radiation, which is still present in pollution after the nuclear disaster. In a mere few decades, it has evolved to fill a niche, and take advantage of something which wasn't there before; it actually seeks out radiation. (Yum) Given the billions upon billions of years since life has existed on Earth, anything i ...[text shortened]... sible within the realms of 'nature'; nature has no god, nature needs no god, ain't nature wonderful.
We do have a link to an original publication:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0953756208615026

At least the 37 species of fungi can survive the radiation levels at the chernobyl reactor.

And that is a study using one of the fungi in space:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/
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