@wildgrass saidThe point is evolution can be claimed by creationst and atheist the force behind the process is either purposeful or not, from beginning to end it’s one or the other.
No I was referring to evolution from your original post. You have changed the entire subject.
The post that was quoted here has been removedThere is no success or failure without a goal, and this has not been proven at all for building information systems in biology; it takes a mind for that. In labs, things are not left to run; strict goals guide them. Abiogenesis is a fairy tale more than anything else, having evolution proven it not much different except in small alterations, nothing on the level of creating something new, with maybe the exception where a loss of information does that.
The post that was quoted here has been removedSo instead of answering the things I say about it, the points I do bring up, you say I’m ignorant, that settles it. I do not agree with you, so I’m uninformed because anyone informed would agree with you? You are so confident that your notions about evolution are so accurate that they cannot be disagreed with by anyone without some issue with them, not what you think.
How about telling me about how life is put together so that, without a goal, without a plan, chemicals managed to come together and bond in such a way that they could capture energy, harness it, and direct it to do specified work without falling apart.
@KellyJay saidYou are dissing 200 years of evolution studies, like YOU know more than dozens of PdD's in the subject of evolution and genetics.
So instead of answering the things I say about it, the points I do bring up, you say I’m ignorant, that settles it. I do not agree with you, so I’m uninformed because anyone informed would agree with you? You are so confident that your notions about evolution are so accurate that they cannot be disagreed with by anyone without some issue with them, not what you think.
Ho ...[text shortened]... hat they could capture energy, harness it, and direct it to do specified work without falling apart.
You will NEVER accept ANY scientific evidence of life from mud since your ONLY stance which will REMAIN your only stance is, yeah, there is evolution but life from MUD?
Only GOD can do that.
@sonhouse saidBe specific about what study you think I'm dissing. I don’t think you can produce anything on the facts I said weren’t true. I don’t think you will even attempt to bring up anything either. You are good at taking a cheap shot and running off, as it is all below you. You said you were going to stop responding to me. Why don’t you actually do what you say?
You are dissing 200 years of evolution studies, like YOU know more than dozens of PdD's in the subject of evolution and genetics.
You will NEVER accept ANY scientific evidence of life from mud since your ONLY stance which will REMAIN your only stance is, yeah, there is evolution but life from MUD?
Only GOD can do that.
FYI, simply because anything is believed for a long time, that is not the measure for it being true; it is only a measure for how long it has been believed.
@KellyJay saidBut your basic underlying argument is mere humans can never figure out how life started because you KNOW God did it.
Be specific about what study you think I'm dissing. I don’t think you can produce anything on the facts I said weren’t true. I don’t think you will even attempt to bring up anything either. You are good at taking a cheap shot and running off, as it is all below you. You said you were going to stop responding to me. Why don’t you actually do what you say?
FYI, simply be ...[text shortened]... , that is not the measure for it being true; it is only a measure for how long it has been believed.
The post that was quoted here has been removedYou should put some thought into that. I’m talking about the cellular mechanisms that cause alteration in the genetic makeup, the information driving all of the processes in life. You are talking about fully developed life forms, some of which have greater speed, strength, or other attributes that give them an advantage. Exactly how do you link that to what takes place in the genetic code, where all of the information driving life’s processes occurs?
What I’m talking about is cellular. What you are talking about, even if it had something to do with code, wouldn’t cause any alteration at a cellular level; it would strengthen what is there. Nothing about that would reasonably cause random modification to occur in the same place over and over to build something new.
@sonhouse saidWith you, I don’t bother arguing. You don’t speak to the topic; you speak about people, telling them what they are thinking and why, never addressing the topic.
But your basic underlying argument is mere humans can never figure out how life started because you KNOW God did it.