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Originally posted by Thequ1ckUm... What?
Faith based and life after death. Aren't those just atrophies of the mind?
Originally posted by googlefudgeI think the buddha himself would say those monks are wrong. There is only the now. The future is an illusion.
Actually no, Buddhism does include a notion of life after death (of a sorts).
However they don't like to admit it.
Aaron Rah did some digging on this including going to a number of Buddhist temples and
questioning the monks there and he did get them to (grudgingly) admit that they do believe
in a continuation of 'something' after death.
Can' ...[text shortened]... e he talks about this (there are several) but I will
post one when I next come across it.
Originally posted by karoly aczelBuddhism attempts to define words as an allegory, that's why the messages are all so ****ed up and self-referential.
I think the buddha himself would say those monks are wrong. There is only the now. The future is an illusion.
Originally posted by Thequ1ckThat's not a given, physics has a preferential direction of time because of the laws of thermodynamics.
So given that the direction of the arrow of time is purely referential.
Is it less meaningful to say that the future has created the past than it is to say that the past has created the future?
If Not then can it not be said, it is more likely that humans play a role in the creation of the universe by way of the future than an unproved 'God' has in the past?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThe thermodynamic arrow of time is a notion we adhere to because we are simply unable to comprehend any other. However, the thermodynamic arrow of time is unable to deal with more existential matters such as existence. The causal arrow of time is.
That's not a given, physics has a preferential direction of time because of the laws of thermodynamics.
Originally posted by Thequ1ckThe key difference is predictability. There are more possible futures than pasts so we can 'predict' the past far better than we can 'predict' the future.
Is it less meaningful to say that the future has created the past than it is to say that the past has created the future?
Originally posted by twhiteheadBut that's exactly my point. Why is this reality more coherent than the myriad options??
The key difference is predictability. There are more possible futures than pasts so we can 'predict' the past far better than we can 'predict' the future.
It must be noted however that the past is not entirely predictable. This oddity about the past is what quantum mechanics is all about.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI'm suggesting that should science have a theory for existence. The lead theory should be a temporal loop.
I don't understand the question.