M & String

are theses theories all dead now? I haven't heard anything new for ages..

@ogb said
are theses theories all dead now? I haven't heard anything new for ages..

I think they're still being actively researched, but there's a problem with evidence. As far as I know there's no real evidence for anything much outside the standard model.

@ogb said
are theses theories all dead now? I haven't heard anything new for ages..

The Problem is that These theories are so complex that it is very difficult to unterstand the advances they re making. (I don't Claim to understand the theories deeply enough)

@ponderable said
The Problem is that These theories are so complex that it is very difficult to unterstand the advances they re making. (I don't Claim to understand the theories deeply enough)

These things tend to take years before any significant advancements are made.
I think all research scientists must be related to conveyancing solicitors!!
Then , all of a sudden someone will come up with a new slant on the theory, publish a paper and it gets in the media again

@venda
You think that is a bad thing?

@sonhouse said
@venda
You think that is a bad thing?

No.
The fact that these things are being thought about must be a good thing

@venda
I read somewhere String and M theory are like 23rd century science seeping into the 20th and 21st century. Maybe we have to wait till the 23rd century to fully understand those theories and whatever comes to replace them.

@sonhouse said
@venda
I read somewhere String and M theory are like 23rd century science seeping into the 20th and 21st century. Maybe we have to wait till the 23rd century to fully understand those theories and whatever comes to replace them.

sounds like time travelers from the future are helping us now..I agree with sonhouse about this..

@ogb said
sounds like time travelers from the future are helping us now..I agree with sonhouse about this..

Exactly! Without time travelers from the future to help us understand this, the travelers from the future wouldn't know enough to help us with it now. We need help with it now, so we can get that same help from those who benefited later on and came back here to where we are to help us with... that thing we could use some help with.

@sonhouse said
@venda
I read somewhere String and M theory are like 23rd century science seeping into the 20th and 21st century. Maybe we have to wait till the 23rd century to fully understand those theories and whatever comes to replace them.

The speed of advancement in other fields of science suggest we may not have to wait as long as that.
I may not see the answers in my lifetime though(I'm 68)

@ogb said
are theses theories all dead now? I haven't heard anything new for ages..

Theories are cheap.

Experiments are expensive.

@lemon-lime said
Exactly! Without time travelers from the future to help us understand this, the travelers from the future wouldn't know enough to help us with it now. We need help with it now, so we can get that same help from those who benefited later on and came back here to where we are to help us with... that thing we could use some help with.

U lost me. Can you re-explain that thought so that a simple rabbit could understand?

@bunnyknight said
U lost me. Can you re-explain that thought so that a simple rabbit could understand?

It's a paradox.
A future understanding of string theory is accomplished by travelers from the future coming here to help us with understanding string theory. If we didn't have those future scientists helping us with this, there would be no future scientists who could travel back in time to help us with this.

@lemon-lime said
It's a paradox.
A future understanding of string theory is accomplished by travelers from the future coming here to help us with understanding string theory. If we didn't have those future scientists helping us with this, there would be no future scientists who could travel back in time to help us with this.

Can't tell if you're being serious or not...

@soothfast said
Can't tell if you're being serious or not...

A paradox is a scenario that doesn't work, and time travel is an idea that lends itself to paradoxes.

The grandfather paradox is a familiar one. If you go back in time and kill your grandfather before he has children, there will be no future you who could go back in time. You wouldn't exist because your father or mother didn't exist, but this is impossible because you were the one who caused your own non-existence.